newark bay and tributaries

[jerseypete]

hello,
has anyone else heard the rumor that newark bay will be opened for crabbing next season.
any info would be helpful, that was my old stompimg grounds and i would love to get back.
thanks and enjoy the holidays,
jerseypete

[jason22]

Would be very very interesting, Meadowlands are in my backyard as well.  I will be keeping my ear to the ground on that one but have heard nothing yet.  I am sure they will have some special regulations in place is they do.

[Ronster]

Has the water in that area suddenly become clean?   

I've heard nothing on this.   

[saltysenior]

 

  ya mean the HAKKY ?                   




  15w

[mrscharms]

OMG, the Newark Bay?  Filthy!  When I lived in NJ I used to work down there...and I could not believe how dirty the water was.  Now the Chesapeake is trying to catch up with them

If this is true, then maybe they have cleaned it up.  But I'd be wary and very excited at the same time!

Janice

[jason22]

Living in a town the is bordered by the Passaic river I can definitely say to has been cleaned up, at least with dumping and sewage.  As a kid I would hang out at Bergen county park and I can attest that the shorelines of the river were the dirtiest smelliest stuff I ever saw.  That was in the 80's.  I was jogging down there a few weeks back and was shocked.  Not one piece of garbage.  I guess they finally got the river cleaned from dumping.  However, the damage done over the years from garbage to dioxins will take many years to clean up and be deemed perfectly safe. 

It's a start but in our lifetimes I doubt eating crab from the Hackensack river area and Newark Bay tributaries will be safe.

Nice to see things are getting better though.  Another thing in the end is that many of the areas accessible to the public in the meadowlands are closed off, at least in my town and area.

[Ronster]

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dsr/crab-outreach/flier.pdf

Nothing like some steamed crabs, cancer and stunted brain development for the little ones.

[nadapesca]

Keep us up to date on the Newark Bay situation.

[Ronster]

Not in our lifetime...

[tattoo]

Not in our lifetime...

Sad but true. 

[nadapesca]

They do clean up the surrounding areas and cease the pollution that was rampant for the most part, but, and this is a big but, they can't  get all of the toxic waste out of the silt unless they dredge the entire bottom many feet down.  And the tides, currents, dredging, etc. keep it coming and going. They probably will open it to crabbing eventually, about the time they erect the new Soylent Green factory in the Meadowlands.

[mdjohn]

ya know - not to say it's a good idea but --------

ya got an area with no fishing pressure so the crabs grew big  and multiplied without being removed 

just a thought 

[saltysenior]

They do clean up the surrounding areas and cease the pollution that was rampant for the most part, but, and this is a big but, they can't  get all of the toxic waste out of the silt unless they dredge the entire bottom many feet down.  And the tides, currents, dredging, etc. keep it coming and going. They probably will open it to crabbing eventually, about the time they erect the new Soylent Green factory in the Meadowlands.

i heard the soylet green factory was to be built in the pine barrens southeast of ft. dix.

[marknut]

Crabs are probly huge up there, definitly not safe to eat, but did hear of some people eating some out of there, who noes how sick they got after eating a few haha

[mdjohn]

Crabs are probly huge up there, definitly not safe to eat, but did hear of some people eating some out of there, who noes how sick they got after eating a few haha

probably, somebody will catch and sell them 

[marknut]

probably, somebody will catch and sell them 

               

Oh definitly I wouldnt dought it, especially sold from those little markets and restauraunts in north jersey.

[nadapesca]

probably, somebody will catch and sell them 

Thats' just why the State keeps it off limits. Some people feel they have the right to eat what they want and there should be no rules. That's fine, poison yourself. But once it's open, those little markets up there will have nice fat toxic crabs and an unsuspecting public will be buying them. Because of the pollution, commerical crabbing probably would not be allowed. But there are some who drown those comm pots w/o license and sell them to their friends who just happen to own markets. Same thing with blackfish. The AC Press ran a story on that in the fall. Actually had pictures of individuals catching illegal blackfish and putting them in coolers in their vehicles and going back for more. I saw the same thing at the Manasquan Inlet last fall. Best to just keep it off limits or those crabs will wind up being brought by people who are not aware of what toxic dump they originated in.

[saltysenior]

 you have to remember there a lot of people that are not familiar with the american way of life...they do not understand our vast untapped resources....like the pigeons,squirrels,robins,ducks,geese,ect. that are not used by us for food......at least they eat every thing they take...

[jefftoleft]

you have to remember there a lot of people that are not familiar with the american way of life...they do not understand our vast untapped resources....like the pigeons,squirrels,robins,ducks,geese,ect. that are not used by us for food......at least they eat every thing they take...

Now thats funny I was born and raised in America and I have eaten everything you named except for robins 

[Ronster]

you have to remember there a lot of people that are not familiar with the american way of life...they do not understand our vast untapped resources....like the pigeons,squirrels,robins,ducks,geese,ect. that are not used by us for food......at least they eat every thing they take...

When I think of ducks, I think of food.

[TAXI CRAB]

I prefer groundhogs

[jack1747]

That post made me starting thinking about vast untapped food sources.  I found a reference to "Robin Pot Pie" being a delicacy...... And that made me think about all these [dang] Black Birds.. Found this:
BLACK BIRD PIE RECIPE

3 1/2 cups self-rising flour
1 cup very warm water (almost hot)

Mix little biscuit dough. Knead 'til tough and dry - roll with rolling pin 'til very thin and cut into 2-inch strips.

(Clean birds according to information posted under recipe)
BIRDS:
25 black birds well covered with water
3/4 lb. sausage (link) - optional

Cook until tender (at least 2 hours or 1 hour for chicken). Salt and pepper to taste. When black birds are tender, keep broth at a rolling boil and drop in pastry - piece by piece, shaking pot constantly to keep pastry pieces separated. When all is in pot, place cover on and let cook for approximately 10 minutes. Let set for about ten more minutes. Then eat.

[mdjohn]

you have to remember there a lot of people that are not familiar with the american way of life...they do not understand our vast untapped resources....like the pigeons,squirrels,robins,ducks,geese,ect. that are not used by us for food......at least they eat every thing they take...

ya missed dogs, cats, rats and snakes -------------- yummmy

I'm a vegatarian but I do love veal. It's so tender and tasty. 

[Dreampixels]

That post made me starting thinking about vast untapped food sources.  I found a reference to "Robin Pot Pie" being a delicacy...... And that made me think about all these [dang] Black Birds.. Found this:
BLACK BIRD PIE RECIPE

3 1/2 cups self-rising flour
1 cup very warm water (almost hot)

Mix little biscuit dough. Knead 'til tough and dry - roll with rolling pin 'til very thin and cut into 2-inch strips.

(Clean birds according to information posted under recipe)
BIRDS:
25 black birds well covered with water
3/4 lb. sausage (link) - optional

Cook until tender (at least 2 hours or 1 hour for chicken). Salt and pepper to taste. When black birds are tender, keep broth at a rolling boil and drop in pastry - piece by piece, shaking pot constantly to keep pastry pieces separated. When all is in pot, place cover on and let cook for approximately 10 minutes. Let set for about ten more minutes. Then eat.

How did that rhym go -   4 and 20 black birds baked in a pie?


I found it!

Sing a song of sixpence
AKA blackbirds in a pie
 
Sing a song of sixpence a pocket full of rye,
Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie.
When the pie was opened the birds began to sing,
Oh wasn't that a dainty dish to set before the king?
The king was in his counting house counting out his money,
The queen was in the parlour eating bread and honey
The maid was in the garden hanging out the clothes,
When down came a blackbird and pecked off her nose!
 

[saltysenior]

Now thats funny I was born and raised in America and I have eaten everything you named except for robins 

me too........but did it come from a park