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« on: July 29, 2008, 03:37:59 PM »

I knew you'd look.

Going crabbing somewhere Thursday, so I stopped in a local H-Mart to pick up the chicken legs (cheap) and mackerel pike (also cheap) and saw a plastic container full of blue claws. Never knew they had them. Every [dang] one female and many looked on the edge of death. And to think many of us go through the trouble of releasing the females. A good deal of those crabs were barely legal. A question, at that size, how many do you think have spawned at all?
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 03:40:34 PM »

I knew what you meant as soon as I read the title of the post!!! This pisses me and my husband off to NO END.....females is what populate, 1000 eggs per...thats 1000 crabs that WILL NOT BE BORN  Angry

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 03:43:11 PM »

AGREE.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 04:47:19 PM »

There has to be some has been some discussion about this and some argue that it doesn't matter with taking the females. I even read one post last year where the guy said taking them had no affect on the population. We just do this for a meal and recreation. The comms got to make a living at it. If they want to preserve that living, why do they persist in cutting off the source? I saw a few out on the Shrewsbury a few weeks ago and they were nice enough, chatted with us a bit while tending traps. Told us good luck. In that area we only picked up a few females in half an hour so we left. Maybe that's where all of the she crabs came from as they had a bunch of traps nearby (half mile west of Goose Neck Point Bridge). Oh well MassCrabbin, nobody seems to care. I saw a post before where the person asked about the sponge. Should you be crabbing if you don't know the law or the reason behind it? 
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 07:09:18 PM »

Here is you 2nd Post,

           Yeah, I have heard the same on here...was wondering maybe if there was a different type of crab? I hear green ones are not what we want, hubby is from Jersey so he's been displaced to NH with me lol. We still would love to find some good crabbin spots tho 


3 minutes later you have ALL the answers to Save Crabbing, You don't know ANYTHING ABOUT CRABBING, But the Commercial Guys are all BUTTHOLES...  RIGHT??   I forgot, Welcome to the BLUE CRAB FORUM...




LMAO, I guess you Yankee's already cleaned out all the Crabs In NH??
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 09:16:03 PM »

AGREE.  Wink
Tattoowhy agree with him/them.....it solely not the comms fault the crabs have disapeared....it comes from all of us. Run off, pollution, overbuilding along fragile water ways and so on. It is virtually impossible to "catch" all of them. BTW, I don't mean to bust ur chops, but the guy doesn't have grasp on the blue crab fishery...neither do I Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 09:16:57 PM »

Here is you 2nd Post,

           Yeah, I have heard the same on here...was wondering maybe if there was a different type of crab? I hear green ones are not what we want, hubby is from Jersey so he's been displaced to NH with me lol. We still would love to find some good crabbin spots tho 


3 minutes later you have ALL the answers to Save Crabbing, You don't know ANYTHING ABOUT CRABBING, But the Commercial Guys are all BUTTHOLES...  RIGHT??   I forgot, Welcome to the BLUE CRAB FORUM...




LMAO, I guess you Yankee's already cleaned out all the Crabs In NH??
Hey Gene, you're a butthole laugh laugh laugh laugh Darn commercial guy  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 09:20:38 PM »

Hey Gene, you're a butthole laugh laugh laugh laugh Darn commercial guy  Grin




Thanks  Brian, what are the Know it all's from Yankee Land??
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 09:23:38 PM »

Hey Gene, you're a butthole laugh laugh laugh laugh Darn commercial guy  Grin
i knew it gene.. dam commie...  laugh laugh laugh
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Thanks  Brian, what are the Know it all's from Yankee Land??


We are 1 and 0!  Wanna shoot at Fort Sumpter again butthole?  Grin
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We are 1 and 0!  Wanna shoot at Fort Sumpter again butthole?  Grin



Maybe        IN TIME    Grin Grin
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Maybe        IN TIME    Grin Grin
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2008, 10:32:17 PM »

.....and I thought this post was about the girls gone wild videos....Sad
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2008, 10:42:23 PM »



Maybe        IN TIME    Grin Grin
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I knew what you meant as soon as I read the title of the post!!! This pisses me and my husband off to NO END.....females is what populate, 1000 eggs per...thats 1000 crabs that WILL NOT BE BORN  Angry

If only the commercials would GIVE A [shiz] this whole planet would be a better place!
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 06:47:07 AM »

Come on guys.....not all Yankee's are uninformed, just some of them  Grin Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2008, 09:12:55 AM »

This has something to do with where you are from? Wiped out the crabs in NH? Obviously, you people are not the ones to ask about the blue claw as you have no idea of it's habits or range. As usual, you cover your ignorance with profanity (if you could) and threats. The issue was about taking females, especially the smaller ones, "barely legal". You'll notice I was somewhat concerned with how the commercials will continue to make a living. They seem to be crying the blues about the blues in some areas south of here, but, and that's with one t you ignorant redneck, they want to blame everybody and everything but themselves. None of you had anything to do with overharvesting. It's all pollution and Yankees spittin' in the Potomac. Yep, das what kill'd off our living. Well, pollution is certainly responsible, Yankees are to blame for many things. But taking every female you can, naw, nuttin' ta do wid it!

Go ahead you ignorant rednecks, take your best shot. Maybe I'll post a picture of my Great Great Grandfather, Cpl. James Llewellyn Jones of Hamilton, New York, standing off to the side of that courthouse in Appomattox VA, on that fine day in 1865 when we showed you who was boss!
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2008, 09:24:12 AM »

Okay, kids, play nice. 


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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2008, 09:31:45 AM »

genecrab...youre an immature idiot, but hey, why state the obvious? Your response says it all.

I never claimed to know EVERYTHING about anything, so your silly accusation is just that. Youre apparently offended because youre one of the commerc's that DOES take females? Or are you really just that unhappy about life that you get all peeved at a post?

lol

all grown up, how about you?

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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2008, 09:38:42 AM »

and PS...I have never been crabbing up here, obviously. My husband is from Jersey, and has been crabbing since he was old enough to walk.

Didn't mean to get everyone's knickers in a twist for stating an opinion, I never said ALL comm's were bad, evil, poaching SOB's that trash the planet. But yes, I firmly believe that when large amounts of "barely legal females" are taken, it depletes the population. Common sense (which ISNT so common afterall!)

Also, anyone that knows anything about us Massholes is that we hate the Yankees...by all means...keep calling me redneck! haha...
sorry gene for hurting your internet feelings..
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2008, 09:51:02 AM »

What exactly is a "barely legal" female? 



In MD, a legal female is one of any size that is matured.  The law says it's legal for commercial watermen to harvest females that are matured.  Does it make someone bad because they take them when it is "legal"?  For some commercial watermen, due to the location, this is the bulk of the catch. 

Have you ever eaten any form of picked crabmeat out in public (restaurant) or ever bought a can of crabmeat from a retailer?  Sorry to say, but 99% of the time, it's female meat.   Just keep that in mind when you order your next crabcake, or stuffed flounder, or crab imperial. 

Bottom line, as long as it's legal and the law is followed, no one should be chastised or crucified for the harvest of them. 
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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2008, 09:51:53 AM »

I love the BCA Annual North-South Civil Ware re-enactment  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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 But yes, I firmly believe that when large amounts of "barely legal females" are taken, it depletes the population. Common sense (which ISNT so common afterall!)


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Common sense says that any crab taken depletes the population,don't know how y'all do it up there  Roll Eyes but here in the south it takes one from each gender to reproduce,I have noticed that the local lesbian population does seem to have problems having children so I can only assume it is the same way with the blue crabs. No dang wonder all those little yankee girls come south for a good time and to get trained in the art of love making. Wink  
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2008, 10:01:34 AM »

Got any of them wacky actors (reenactors) out there? Now's the time to get your kit together, polish them boots (yankees) sew them rags (butternut terrorists) swab them barrels, gonna have a little skirmish.
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2008, 10:09:26 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2008, 10:11:24 AM »

I knew what you meant as soon as I read the title of the post!!! This pisses me and my husband off to NO END.....females is what populate, 1000 eggs per...thats 1000 crabs that WILL NOT BE BORN  Angry

If only the commercials would GIVE A [shiz] this whole planet would be a better place!

It would've been better to have done just a little research before revealing your ignorance. (BTW - the word "ignorance" isn't intended as an insult, it just means you have no knowledge of your subject!)

From: http://www.bluecrab.info/spawning.html

"The average sponge contains about two million eggs, but may contain anywhere from 750,000 to 8 million eggs, depending on the size of the crab...On the average, only one out of every million eggs survives to become a mature adult. Mortality of eggs has been attributed to fungal infection, predation, suffocation in stagnant water, and exposure to extreme temperatures...Although a female will mate only once, she will produce many fertilized egg masses during her lifetime from this single mating. Studies in Florida found that some female crabs produce as many as seven broods (sponges) in one year from a single mating, and up to 18 broods over 2-2½ years. "

What all of this means is, roughly, that the fecundity of the blue crab is so high that the harvesting of females is not the limiting factor on the population(at least in NJ). Case closed. Cool

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