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« on: July 20, 2010, 01:26:34 PM »

We have collapsible traps that have a spring on them that you place the chicken necks under.  The first time we used them we lost several chicken necks.  Next time around we tried tying the chicken necks down along with placing them under the springs and still lost a good bit of chicken necks.  We've also used cable ties to try to get them to stay in place but they still come loose.  We've tried baiting at night when the necks are still frozen which I thought the cause of it was, but we've also sat the chicken necks out all night and baited them in the morning and still had issues.

Several times we've pulled a trap up to find a crab in the trap, but no chicken neck!  We used to have the crab rings and rarely lost a chicken neck, so are we doing something wrong with these collapsible traps or is this a common thing with the traps?  We also have a trotline and rarely lose chicken necks on that either.

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 02:34:03 PM »

Welcome . try snoods .  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 03:07:29 PM »

Yep get rid of the springs. Snoods work great.   
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 07:41:29 PM »

Catfish and turtles can contribute greatly to those losses.  I have no problems with the bait springs holding them, as long as the springs have sufficient amount of tension on them.  If you tie the baits on and still lose them, then you may have something other than crabs filling up on your chicken.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 07:45:27 PM »

Catfish and turtles can contribute greatly to those losses.  I have no problems with the bait springs holding them, as long as the springs have sufficient amount of tension on them.  If you tie the baits on and still lose them, then you may have something other than crabs filling up on your chicken.

most likely mud cats if your in the GP or Bush river area...use heavy cable ties and pull them really tight.. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 04:30:49 AM »

and never tie a frozen neck to the trap, when it trhaws it shinks and they become loose. if you throw the traps off the boat when your going too fast theyll come out or like otehrs have said catfish.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 09:56:00 AM »

What about the gadget I have seen that looks like a large safety pin?  Are they any good?  I like the idea of the cable ties also.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 10:00:32 AM »

yea they work good too . you slide the neck gown the pin . it is almost impossible for the bait to get stolen .  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 02:29:39 PM »

The good thing about the pins is when you have those little pieces of neck you can slide 2 or 3 on instead of having tiny pieces in your traps 10 of mine have the pins and the other 20 have snoods.
 
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 02:44:16 PM »

Snoods work better in traps with larger pieces of bait.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 02:47:00 PM »

If you use the cable ties, make sure they are wrapped around only 1 wire of the trap, not 2, and as others mentioned, thawed not frozen.  Some also fasten a rectangle of small fencing under the spring (first picture)
I use mending plates under the springs, (2nd picture) cut in to strips so you have 2 sets of spikes.  Previously I used cable ties, but springs with mending plates are fast and easy to bait and unbait. Just wire or cable tie them to the trap.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2010, 02:49:56 PM »

Snoods work better in traps with larger pieces of bait.

I'm sorry to ask this, but what is a Snood?
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2010, 03:14:51 PM »

This post was made in poor taste, sorry, again laugh laugh
I'm sorry to ask this, but what is a Snood?
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2010, 04:23:59 PM »

This is a snood used in a trap.  The screwdriver handle represents bait.  It's made of bungee cord and rubber hose (called the snubber).  When you pull on one end of the bungee, it stretches the bungee and pulls the snubber down tight to the bait securing it in place.  It is very effective to hold bait, easy on the hands, and very quick to bait and unbait a trap or snoodline (trotline with snoods attached).
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 04:26:37 PM »

where can you buy the pins???
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2010, 07:55:54 AM »

I have been using the pins for years and have also used the snoods which have become very popular. The good thing with both these techniques is that they are permanent. They'll stay on the traps for years with no retying, you just slip out the old a put in a new one.
Down by me they can be had at Eastern Marine in Newark DE, or Sarge's in Chesapeake City MD. Maybe someone could suggest places by you
We call them Jimmie Clips, and are usually priced around $1.00 to $1.50 each. Sounds like a lot but they last forever.
P.S. You should wire tie them to the bottom of your traps with 3 wire tie.
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2010, 12:11:34 PM »

where can you buy the pins???

You can easily make them - coat hanger, tig weld wire, or just about anything.

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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2010, 12:14:30 PM »

The SS ones are better they will never rust,  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2010, 12:43:46 PM »

I use insulation support wires, they are a high tension type wire.
You can easily make them - coat hanger, tig weld wire, or just about anything.


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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2010, 12:49:35 PM »

I use insulation support wires, they are a high tension type wire.

Good idea - never gave that wire a thought.
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2010, 10:11:20 PM »

where can you buy the pins???

forget the pins. Go to Home Depot and buy a roll of bailing wire. You will find it with the rebar. attach by twisting a piece of wire to bottom of trap. Run neck down wire either partly frozen or not and fold wire over. no more neck stealing from the critters down there.

btw, been doing this method for years with great success. Grin
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2010, 09:59:03 AM »

why would you get rid of the rings and go to traps, should of went to a line
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2010, 10:00:13 PM »

Battery clamps work great, the spring loaded clothes pin type with claws for jaws.
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2010, 10:10:38 PM »

If you use the cable ties, make sure they are wrapped around only 1 wire of the trap, not 2, and as others mentioned, thawed not frozen.  Some also fasten a rectangle of small fencing under the spring (first picture)
I use mending plates under the springs, (2nd picture) cut in to strips so you have 2 sets of spikes.  Previously I used cable ties, but springs with mending plates are fast and easy to bait and unbait. Just wire or cable tie them to the trap.
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 10:16:52 PM »

But i have searched everywhere for stainless, no luck only small alligator style clips.
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