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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2011, 11:41:08 AM »

Jack (b)(2) of the MD Code you cited below is conjunctive.  Notice the "and" under part c.  An easier reading of the law would be "If you imported crabs from another state and they measure less than 5 inches and do not comply with the tolerance limits of MD, then you must have in your possession a bill of sale and they must have been legally caught in the state where they originated".  It would be unconstitutional (a violation of interstate commerce), not to allow the sale of these crabs in Maryland. 

In any event, I have never sold a crab under 5 inches.  I am just clarifying the law. 


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E. Notwithstanding Natural Resources Article, §4-809, Annotated Code of Maryland, a person may not:

(1) Catch or possess more than 5 hard crabs per bushel or 13 hard crabs per barrel which measure less than the minimum size specified in these regulations;

(2) Possess hard crabs imported from another State which:

(a) Measure less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike;


(b) Do not comply with the tolerance limits of the jurisdiction of origin;

(c) Are not accompanied by a bill of sale or bill of lading from the jurisdiction of origin; and

(d) Were not caught in full compliance with the laws of the jurisdiction of origin;


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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2011, 11:43:52 AM »



Thank you - me sees the water is not nearly as muddy now me does....... Wink
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2011, 09:46:39 PM »


Ok then what does he do with the 5 shorts per bushel he is allowed if they are not caught by the DNR and tossed back? If he had 10 or 15 bushels he would have near a 1/2 bushel of shorts if there were 5 per bushel.
I asked this question to a DNR sgt. at Kent Island a few years ago as he finished going through a few dozen of ours. He said they would be thrown back then it was $5 a crab or something (nothing short was found). Then again the rules seem to be open to interpretation of officers which can be both a good and a bad thing.
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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2011, 06:48:39 AM »



Well the law appears to be an Oxymoron.

 I duno, it appears all to conflicting..........



No "Oxymoron", nor "Conflicting".

It's there for "Accidents". Try to "Cull" 45 baskets of crabs in 7 hours and not make any mistakes, while rocking on a boat and another pot full of crabs being dumoed into the cull tray (Either keeping a short, or throwing back a keeper) Remember some are out there making a living.

Other reason is for such things as "broken points". Sometimes crabs fight in the basket and points get broken. Should the culler be responsible for this? Possible for 3 or 4 or even 5 to get points broken, but not 3/4's of the bushel, that's what the "exception" is for.
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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2011, 09:58:08 AM »

No "Oxymoron", nor "Conflicting".

It's there for "Accidents". Try to "Cull" 45 baskets of crabs in 7 hours and not make any mistakes, while rocking on a boat and another pot full of crabs being dumoed into the cull tray (Either keeping a short, or throwing back a keeper) Remember some are out there making a living.

Other reason is for such things as "broken points". Sometimes crabs fight in the basket and points get broken. Should the culler be responsible for this? Possible for 3 or 4 or even 5 to get points broken, but not 3/4's of the bushel, that's what the "exception" is for.
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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2011, 10:20:18 AM »

No "Oxymoron", nor "Conflicting".

It's there for "Accidents". Try to "Cull" 45 baskets of crabs in 7 hours and not make any mistakes, while rocking on a boat and another pot full of crabs being dumoed into the cull tray (Either keeping a short, or throwing back a keeper) Remember some are out there making a living.

Other reason is for such things as "broken points". Sometimes crabs fight in the basket and points get broken. Should the culler be responsible for this? Possible for 3 or 4 or even 5 to get points broken, but not 3/4's of the bushel, that's what the "exception" is for.

I understand WHY you are allowed to have 5 per basket and not fined and I have no problem with that.......however

  The "Oxymoron and Conflicting" is with the laws. One laws allows for5 and another is written to take that allowance away.  One laws says up to 5 is ok, no fine. Another laws say it is illegal to posses or transport and there are no numbers attached meaning none, not even one in my thinking.

 
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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2011, 12:53:26 PM »

(2) Possess hard crabs imported from another State which:

(a) Measure less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike;


Even in Maryland, a rec crabber can keep mature females "hard crabs" under 5" as long as they don't have sponge (coastal) , so again, this is only if you don't have documentation where they are from and whether they followed that states rules.
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2011, 11:26:16 PM »

No "Oxymoron", nor "Conflicting".

It's there for "Accidents". Try to "Cull" 45 baskets of crabs in 7 hours and not make any mistakes, while rocking on a boat and another pot full of crabs being dumoed into the cull tray (Either keeping a short, or throwing back a keeper) Remember some are out there making a living.

Other reason is for such things as "broken points". Sometimes crabs fight in the basket and points get broken. Should the culler be responsible for this? Possible for 3 or 4 or even 5 to get points broken, but not 3/4's of the bushel, that's what the "exception" is for.

time to find a new culler ..  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2011, 05:25:10 PM »

time to find a new culler ..  Wink
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« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2011, 08:58:54 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2011, 12:06:35 PM »

  The "Oxymoron and Conflicting" is with the laws. One laws allows for5 and another is written to take that allowance away.  One laws says up to 5 is ok, no fine. Another laws say it is illegal to posses or transport and there are no numbers attached meaning none, not even one in my thinking.


Have you even read the "Laws"? From what you're posting I would think not. It's all in one section, "E" in the below link.

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/08/08.02.03.14.htm

Here it is.....


E. Notwithstanding Natural Resources Article, §4-809, Annotated Code of Maryland, a person may not:

(1) Catch or possess more than 5 hard crabs per bushel or 13 hard crabs per barrel which measure less than the minimum size specified in these regulations;

(2) Possess hard crabs imported from another State which:

(a) Measure less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike;

(b) Do not comply with the tolerance limits of the jurisdiction of origin;

(c) Are not accompanied by a bill of sale or bill of lading from the jurisdiction of origin; and

(d) Were not caught in full compliance with the laws of the jurisdiction of origin;

(3) From April 1 through July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike, from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(4) After July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(5) Catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of Worcester County, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(6) Catch or possess more than 10 peeler crabs per bushel or more than 20 per float which are:

(a) Less than 3-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from April 1 through July 14; and

(b) Less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from July 15 through December 15; or

(7) Catch or possess more than one soft crab per 2 dozen soft crabs which is less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike.

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« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2011, 12:30:00 PM »

Have you even read the "Laws"? From what you're posting I would think not. It's all in one section, "E" in the below link.

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/08/08.02.03.14.htm

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E. Notwithstanding Natural Resources Article, §4-809, Annotated Code of Maryland, a person may not:

(1) Catch or possess more than 5 hard crabs per bushel or 13 hard crabs per barrel which measure less than the minimum size specified in these regulations;

(2) Possess hard crabs imported from another State which:

(a) Measure less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike;

(b) Do not comply with the tolerance limits of the jurisdiction of origin;

(c) Are not accompanied by a bill of sale or bill of lading from the jurisdiction of origin; and

(d) Were not caught in full compliance with the laws of the jurisdiction of origin;

(3) From April 1 through July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike, from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(4) After July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(5) Catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of Worcester County, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(6) Catch or possess more than 10 peeler crabs per bushel or more than 20 per float which are:

(a) Less than 3-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from April 1 through July 14; and

(b) Less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from July 15 through December 15; or

(7) Catch or possess more than one soft crab per 2 dozen soft crabs which is less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike.



Now show me the laws on Selling crabs in Maryland.
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« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2011, 03:27:16 PM »

Now show me the laws on Selling crabs in Maryland.

Ummmmmm....I think it's in the same section....(see below)

08.02.03.14
.14 General Prohibitions.

A. Recreational.

(1) Except for crab pots from private piers, dipnets, or handlines, a person may not set any crabbing gear or catch crabs for recreational purposes on Wednesdays in the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries.

(2) When a State or federal holiday falls on a Wednesday or Thursday, recreational crabbing is permitted on the Wednesday of that week.

(3) An individual may not offer to sell or sell crabs that were caught for recreational purposes.

(4) An individual may not knowingly buy or offer to buy crabs which were caught for recreational purposes.

(5) An individual licensed to provide services as a fishing guide or to fish recreationally in the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries may possess any number of soft crabs or male peeler crabs for the purposes of fishing.

B. Commercial — General.

(1) Except for a person who declares intent under §C of this regulation, a person licensed to catch crabs for sale may not set or retrieve gear or catch crabs for commercial purposes in the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries on Sundays and Mondays.

(2) A person who is granted an alternate day off under §D of this regulation may not set or retrieve gear or catch crabs for commercial purposes on the alternate day off.

(3) The vessel of a person licensed to catch crabs for sale may not be used to set or retrieve gear or catch crabs for commercial purposes on the day or days on which the vessel's owner may not set or retrieve gear or catch crabs for commercial purposes.

(4) A person licensed to catch crabs for commercial purposes, who declares under §C(1) of this regulation, may set or retrieve gear or catch crabs for commercial purposes on a Sunday or Monday of a particular week if:

(a) A State or federal holiday falls on the Sunday or Monday, or the immediately preceding Saturday; or

(b) The Sunday or Monday precedes a State or federal holiday that falls on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday of the particular week.

(5) A person licensed to catch crabs for sale may not set or retrieve gear or catch crabs for commercial purposes in the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries on the second and third Thursdays in November.

(6) Mature female hard crabs shall be kept in separate bushels or barrels from male hard crabs or peeler crabs.

(7) Except as specified in §F(2)(c) of this regulation, an individual licensed to catch crabs for commercial purposes may not catch or possess in the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries more than:

(a) Five mature female hard crabs per bushel of male crabs; or

(b) 13 mature female hard crabs per barrel of male crabs.

(7-1) Beginning in 2010, an individual with a limited crab harvester (LCC) license will be considered as limited crab harvester — frozen license status, as specified in §F(2)(b) of this regulation, if that license is not designated as a:

(a) Limited crab harvester — active license; or

(b) Limited crab harvester — male only license.

(Cool The commercial female crab daily catch limit shall be determined by the license type based on the abundance target for spawning age crabs recommended by the Chesapeake Bay Stock Assessment Committee.

(9) Except as provided in §B(11) of this regulation, an individual licensed to catch crabs for commercial purposes may not harvest or possess more mature female hard crabs daily than the catch limit specified by the individual's license type.

(10) Except as provided in §B(11) of this regulation, more than two licensees' daily catch limits from 1 day may not be harvested from, carried on, or possessed on a vessel while the licensees are on board.

(11) An individual may possess and transport crabs harvested from the waters of the Potomac River or Virginia if:

(a) The individual is not engaged in harvesting crabs in Maryland waters while the crabs harvested in the waters of the Potomac River or Virginia are on board the vessel; and

(b) The individual is in possession of a Virginia commercial crab harvester license or Potomac River Fisheries Commission commercial license.

C. Closed Day Declaration of Intent.

(1) A person licensed to catch crabs for sale and who wishes to set or retrieve gear or catch crabs on one of the required days off in §B(1) of this regulation shall declare that person's intent to set or retrieve gear or catch crabs in the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries for commercial purposes on one of the required days off as specified in §B(1) of this regulation.

(2) Display of Declaration. The letters for the abbreviation of the day off shall be identified and displayed on the vessel and shall be painted or firmly attached to the port side near the stern of the vessel as follows:

(a) The letters shall be positioned in such a manner as to be clearly visible to persons in passing boats;

(b) The letters shall be plain vertical block characters of not less than 4 inches in height and shall contrast with the color of the background;

(c) The letters "SUN" shall be displayed as the abbreviation for Sundays; and

(d) The letters "MON" shall be displayed as the abbreviation for Monday.

(3) A person licensed to catch crabs for sale who declares a day off under §C(1) of this regulation shall declare the licensee's vessel identification number and a Sunday or Monday day off at the time of license renewal on forms provided by the Department.

(4) A person licensed to catch crabs for sale may only declare a day off at the time of license renewal or issuance.

D. Alternate Closed Day.

(1) A person licensed to catch crabs for sale may apply to the Department for an alternate to the closed days specified in §B(1) of this regulation. The Department may grant a licensee's request for an alternate closed day if the licensee demonstrates the:

(a) Imposition of substantial hardship on the licensee's exercise of religion by observing one of the closed days specified in §B(1) of this regulation; and

(b) Absence of substantial hardship on the licensee's exercise of religion by observing the alternate closed day requested in the application.

(2) An alternate closed day shall be displayed on the vessel in the manner set forth in §C(2) of this regulation using the first three letters of the day of the week.

(3) A licensee who is granted an alternate closed day may set gear and catch crabs on the closed days specified in §B(1) of this regulation.

E. Notwithstanding Natural Resources Article, §4-809, Annotated Code of Maryland, a person may not:

(1) Catch or possess more than 5 hard crabs per bushel or 13 hard crabs per barrel which measure less than the minimum size specified in these regulations;

(2) Possess hard crabs imported from another State which:

(a) Measure less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike;

(b) Do not comply with the tolerance limits of the jurisdiction of origin;

(c) Are not accompanied by a bill of sale or bill of lading from the jurisdiction of origin; and

(d) Were not caught in full compliance with the laws of the jurisdiction of origin;

(3) From April 1 through July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike, from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(4) After July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(5) Catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of Worcester County, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(6) Catch or possess more than 10 peeler crabs per bushel or more than 20 per float which are:

(a) Less than 3-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from April 1 through July 14; and

(b) Less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from July 15 through December 15; or

(7) Catch or possess more than one soft crab per 2 dozen soft crabs which is less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike.

F. Limited Crab Harvester.

(1) Latent Effort Limited Crab Harvester License.

(a) A limited crab harvester (LCC) authorization of a tidal fish license that has no reported crab harvest between January 1, 2004 and December 15, 2008 on reports submitted to the Department by January 30, 2009, shall be determined to be a latent effort limited crab harvester license, except for those licenses specified in §F(1)(b) of this regulation.

(b) Exceptions to Latent Effort Designation. The following are exceptions to the latent effort designation:

(i) An LCC authorization received through the apprenticeship program;

(ii) An LCC authorization received through a permanent license transfer between August 1, 2006 and July 8, 2009;

(iii) An LCC authorization assigned to an individual who provides appropriate documentation of active military service during the period January 1, 2004 and January 30, 2009;

(iv) An LCC assigned to an individual who completed a successful female bushel limit hardship appeal in 2008; and

(v) An LCC assigned to an individual who currently resides and has resided for at least 5 years on an island in the State that is at least 3 miles from the mainland.

(2) Latent Effort Limited Crab Harvester Status.

(a) An individual with a license that has been determined to be a latent effort license as described in §F(1) of this regulation shall, through a process as determined by the Department, declare to:

(i) Have their LCC license placed in limited crab harvester — frozen status as described in §F(2)(b) of this regulation; or

(ii) Have their LCC license placed in limited crab harvester — male only status as described in §F(2)(d) of this regulation.

(b) An individual with a limited crab harvester license — frozen status:

(i) May not commercially harvest crabs beginning on April 1, 2010;

(ii) Shall renew the license annually in accordance with the schedule designated for an LCC authorization in Natural Resources Article, §4-701, Annotated Code of Maryland, without a fee;

(iii) Need not file a harvest report while the license is on frozen status; and

(iv) May only permanently transfer the license through a family transfer, beneficiary, or business transfer, as described in Natural Resources Article, §4-701, Annotated Code of Maryland.

(c) Upon a determination that the blue crab population meets or exceeds the abundance target for 3 consecutive years, the Department shall assess the number of limited crab harvester — frozen licenses that may be restored to full active status for commercial harvest.

(d) An individual with a limited crab harvester license — male only status:

(i) Shall only harvest male crabs beginning on April 1, 2010;

(ii) May not harvest females at any time regardless of the blue crab population target level being achieved for 3 consecutive years;

(iii) Shall renew the license annually in accordance with the schedule and fees designated for a LCC authorization in Natural Resources Article, §4-701, Annotated Code of Maryland; and

(iv) May only permanently transfer the license through a family or beneficiary transfer as described in Natural Resources Article, §4-701, Annotated Code of Maryland.

(e) Licensees who do not declare their latent effort license status by March 15, 2010, through the Department process shall have their limited crab harvester license placed in limited crab harvester license — frozen status beginning April 1, 2010.

(f) The latent effort license status may not be modified after declaration even if the license has been transferred to a new owner.

(g) Conditions for using an LCC frozen or male only authorization as one of the required authorizations to upgrade to an unlimited tidal fish authorization are described in COMAR 08.02.01.05I.

G. Public Notice. The Department may open, close, or modify a season, or catch limits to manage the harvest to remove not more than 46 percent of the crab population as estimated by the results of the winter dredge survey by:

(1) Publishing notice in a daily newspaper of general circulation at least 48 hours in advance of the time of modification, stating the effective hour and date; and

(2) Disseminating notice of mod

E. Notwithstanding Natural Resources Article, §4-809, Annotated Code of Maryland, a person may not:

(1) Catch or possess more than 5 hard crabs per bushel or 13 hard crabs per barrel which measure less than the minimum size specified in these regulations;

(2) Possess hard crabs imported from another State which:

(a) Measure less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike;

(b) Do not comply with the tolerance limits of the jurisdiction of origin;

(c) Are not accompanied by a bill of sale or bill of lading from the jurisdiction of origin; and

(d) Were not caught in full compliance with the laws of the jurisdiction of origin;

(3) From April 1 through July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike, from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(4) After July 14, catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal tributaries, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(5) Catch or possess a hard crab which measures less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike from the waters of Worcester County, except that the minimum size of crabs does not apply to mature female crabs, identified by the apron;

(6) Catch or possess more than 10 peeler crabs per bushel or more than 20 per float which are:

(a) Less than 3-1/4 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from April 1 through July 14; and

(b) Less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike during the period from July 15 through December 15; or

(7) Catch or possess more than one soft crab per 2 dozen soft crabs which is less than 3-1/2 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the spike.


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« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2011, 05:37:20 PM »


Even in Maryland, a rec crabber can keep mature females "hard crabs" under 5" as long as they don't have sponge (coastal) , so again, this is only if you don't have documentation where they are from and whether they followed that states rules.
No..NO...NO

E. Female Hard Crabs and Female Peelers.

(1) Except as provided in §E(2) of this regulation, an individual may not catch or possess female hard crabs or female peelers.

(2) Exceptions.

(a) An individual licensed to harvest crabs for commercial purposes, except those with a frozen or male only crab harvester license as described in Regulation .14F of this chapter, may catch or possess female hard crabs and female peelers.

(b) An individual may possess female peeler crabs if:

(i) The individual is using the female peeler crabs as bait while finfishing; and

(ii) The female peeler crabs are accompanied by a bill of sale.

(c) An individual recreationally harvesting crabs may not be in possession of female peeler crabs.

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/08/08.02.03.10.htm
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« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2011, 06:43:52 PM »

No..NO...NO

E. Female Hard Crabs and Female Peelers.

(1) Except as provided in §E(2) of this regulation, an individual may not catch or possess female hard crabs or female peelers.

(2) Exceptions.

(a) An individual licensed to harvest crabs for commercial purposes, except those with a frozen or male only crab harvester license as described in Regulation .14F of this chapter, may catch or possess female hard crabs and female peelers.

(b) An individual may possess female peeler crabs if:

(i) The individual is using the female peeler crabs as bait while finfishing; and

(ii) The female peeler crabs are accompanied by a bill of sale.

(c) An individual recreationally harvesting crabs may not be in possession of female peeler crabs.

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/08/08.02.03.10.htm

I'm talking "Coastal" which is still in Maryland.  You can keep mature female crabs, no size restrictions as long as they don't have sponge.

Also, the COMARS about selling crabs you posted, are for those who "catch crabs for sale" and I think everyone wants to know about retailing crabs.
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« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2011, 07:58:16 PM »

I'm talking "Coastal" which is still in Maryland.  You can keep mature female crabs, no size restrictions as long as they don't have sponge.

Also, the COMARS about selling crabs you posted, are for those who "catch crabs for sale" and I think everyone wants to know about retailing crabs.

Maybe  then you should have specified "In Coastal Waters Marylander's can keep female crabs".....instead of just adding the (coastal) after sponge, referring to the "sponge" as opposed to the "area" (coastal vs Bay) Or you could have written it like I edited it below.


.......also "catching for sale" or "retailing" what's the difference? It's "Possession"......plain and simple

Even in Maryland, a rec crabber can keep mature females "hard crabs" under 5" as long as they don't have sponge (coastal) , so again, this is only if you don't have documentation where they are from and whether they followed that states rules.


Even in Maryland (coastal-not Bay), a rec crabber can keep mature females "hard crabs" under 5" as long as they don't have sponge, so again, this is only if you don't have documentation where they are from and whether they followed that states rules.
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« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2011, 08:10:22 PM »

Even in Maryland, a rec crabber can keep mature females "hard crabs" under 5" as long as they don't have sponge (coastal) , so again, this is only if you don't have documentation where they are from and whether they followed that states rules.






 Huh  Roll Eyes  I did put coastal in parentheses!   Why did you change my quote?  Maybe the mods should remove what you posted as my quote.
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 Huh  Roll Eyes  I did put coastal in parentheses!   Why did you change my quote?  Maybe the mods should remove what you posted as my quote.


Sorry - I thought it was simple grammar....."()" refers to what it follows - I "BOLDED" what I added to your quote (and even directed you to my "EDITING")........to indicate that "I" added it. I put the "()" after "Maryland" - Indicating the "Coastal" was referring to that part of "MARYLAND" not referring to a "SPONGE".

Not sure why you find that sOOOOOOO hard to understand. I know the reg's........and they really aren't confusing........till someone tells you "Even in Maryland rec's can keep females........."
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« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2011, 08:29:29 PM »

The best way to avoid being ripped off by roadside trucks is DON'T BUY FROM ROADSIDE TRUCKS. If you feel compelled to do so - take a basket in your car and dump the crabs into your basket so you can see what you're getting before leaving the premises. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2011, 03:40:35 PM »

I Baught a bushel from him about a month ago n he told me that they were small but thats all his distributor was giving him he always has the sign for large crabs out and i asked n its large 10.00 crabs as in they are large for 10 dollars pretty much just to get u to stop..when u buy from roadside guys u never know what your gonna get if there big there usually light n if there small usually good n full.
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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2011, 05:32:42 PM »

i sell crabs on the road  ALL heavy and i let u see em going in the bag, so dont say all roadside stands are a ripoff
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« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2011, 05:34:20 PM »

i sell crabs on the road  ALL heavy and i let u see em going in the bag, so dont say all roadside stands are a ripoff
I have bought good crabs from trucks and from seafood places and vice versa.
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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2011, 08:11:20 PM »

I bought some live crabs from the guy on route 40 in joppatowne in front of midway liguor

I bought their middle crabs - not their cheapest - not their highest

this was in october - for $20 a dozen - the first time they were good

the second time same, $20 per dozen and I was busy talking and not looking
there where two 5 1/2 crabs and the rest were paper shell in the 5 inch range, some I measured, they were that small

I can buy $1 dollar crabs steamed at riverside crabs that are better than these, that I had to use my spice, pot, beer and time to steam

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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2011, 08:12:46 PM »

I bought some live crabs from the guy on route 40 in joppatowne in front of midway liguor

this was in october - for $20 a dozen - the first time they were good

the second time same, $20 per dozen and I was busy talking and not looking
there where two 5 1/2 crabs and the rest were paper shell in the 5 inch range, some I measured, they were that small

I can buy $1 dollar crabs steamed at riverside crabs that are better than these, that I had to use my spice, pot, beer and time to steam

morale - look before you buy
            Yes always look at what you buy no matter what it is.
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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2011, 08:17:17 PM »

            Yes always look at what you buy no matter what it is.

I looked at the bushel basket of crabs that he showed me but not at what he put in my bag

those big ones on top of the bushel basket are still sitting in the bushel basket

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