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« on: September 16, 2011, 08:40:35 AM »
article follows

http://www.bayjournal.com/article.cfm?article=4181

also -----  NRDC seeks 'threatened' status for blueback herring, alewife

http://www.bayjournal.com/article.cfm?article=4177
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 01:08:44 PM »
More and More restrictions on the Watermen trying to make a living while "Biologist" rake in Hundreds of thousands of dollars in Grant money, Just to keep finding "SO CALLED" Problems in the Bay..........This dude in the Bunker study wants things back to the way they were in colonial days? What DIPSTICK!!!!!!!!!! Wink

Eco-"FRIENDLY" NUT JOBS WANT EVERYONE OFF THE WATER..........I HATE GOVERNMENT POLITICS,WHEN USED IN THE FISHING/CRABBING INDUSTRY.....
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 08:19:50 PM »
Quote from: genecrabman on September 16, 2011, 01:08:44 PM
More and More restrictions on the Watermen trying to make a living while "Biologist" rake in Hundreds of thousands of dollars in Grant money, Just to keep finding "SO CALLED" Problems in the Bay..........This dude in the Bunker study wants things back to the way they were in colonial days? What DIPSTICK!!!!!!!!!! Wink

Eco-"FRIENDLY" NUT JOBS WANT EVERYONE OFF THE WATER..........I HATE GOVERNMENT POLITICS,WHEN USED IN THE FISHING/CRABBING INDUSTRY.....



They do some of this stuff for job protection, their job! A little of it is honest need...
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 08:28:31 PM »
Quote from: Crabby Captn John on September 16, 2011, 08:19:50 PM
They do some of this stuff for job protection, their job! A little of it is honest need...




North Carolina Sea Grant shows how much these folks RAPE the system......I can't find were Md. sea Grant shows the money numbers...Students work there butts off so these guys with degrees can make thousands of dollars..
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 09:03:37 PM »
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North Carolina Sea Grant shows how much these folks RAPE the system......I can't find were Md. sea Grant shows the money numbers...Students work there butts off so these guys with degrees can make thousands of dollars..

Some of the 'degrees' never go on the water or eat a crab. Some are on a crusade, but most simply want to look good in the eyes of the green people. The green people sign their checks. Now the White House is pushing green- $535 million to 1 company (of 5) that went out of business. They don't care the cost or amount of waste and especially how many jobs are lost. The 'jobs czar' is Imelt, CEO of GE that pays no taxes and is sending thousands of jobs to China.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 12:00:43 PM »
Quote from: genecrabman on September 16, 2011, 01:08:44 PM
Eco-"FRIENDLY" NUT JOBS WANT EVERYONE OFF THE WATER..........I HATE GOVERNMENT POLITICS,WHEN USED IN THE FISHING/CRABBING INDUSTRY.....

Funny, but no where in the article did they say they want to bring things back to colonial times. From the article
"In Maryland, annual harvests of river herring averaged 3.57 million pounds from 1950 to 1970, but have dropped to an average of only 45,570 pounds per year in recent years, an overall decline of almost 99 percent.

In Virginia, annual harvests which once averaged about 24.92 million pounds dropped to an average of about 85,000 pounds in recent years.

The Potomac River, which an 1896 government report called the "leading alewife stream" in the United States, has seen harvests drop from an annual average of 6.77 million pounds between 1960 and 1970 to an annual average of 7,148 pounds."

So do you think restrictions should be put into place to protect the Herring? Doesn't seem like many watermen are making a living catching herring.
Do you want the same thing to happen to the blue crab?
I'm sure you are against restrictions on oyster harvests as well. Last I checked Oysters were at less than 2% of historical levels.

If  unrestrained fisherman didn't decimate the oyster population, the herring population and the crab population, government regulations wouldn't be necessary.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 12:10:29 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 12:16:27 PM »
There's definitely a problem with the crabs, oysters, herring and Alewive.

I remember hashing this out some years back, regarding the harvest of female crabs......puts too much pressure on male crabs.

When you can keep big females, smaller males look less appealing and get tossed back......now, they do not.

There needs to be a balance, and I feel, some of the scientists in charge shouldnt be.

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 12:34:54 PM »
And BONEHEADS like you always blame the comm. fisheries when the real problem is too many people making too much pollution from everything to green lawns to over development. for you BONEHEADS to live in nice houses by the water.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 12:55:50 PM »
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And BONEHEADS like you always blame the comm. fisheries when the real problem is too many people making too much pollution from everything to green lawns to over development. for you BONEHEADS to live in nice houses by the water.

Are you referring to me?
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 02:56:47 PM »
Quote from: ChrisS on September 19, 2011, 12:55:50 PM
Are you referring to me?



LMAO...He said BoneHead, Not knuckleHead......... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 03:29:24 PM »
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LMAO...He said BoneHead, Not knuckleHead......... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 03:41:29 PM »
sorry knucklehead no not you. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 03:50:56 PM »
Actually, he said Bonedheads.  Roll Eyes Grin  Not sure who/what that is.  Gene probably knows. Kiss
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 04:05:50 PM »
Bonedheads......thought I saw that on Lubetube.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2011, 05:45:42 PM »
Great....another one to tell comm. watermen what a POS they are........ Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2011, 07:32:55 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ray III on September 19, 2011, 05:45:42 PM
Great....another one to tell comm. watermen what a POS they are........ Roll Eyes




Just another KNOW IT ALL, Ray...........Oyster limits didn't help the Oyster industry,Limits were set in place for over 40 years..... Herring Limits will not save the Herring Industry and crab Limits will not save the crabs either....Water quality Killed the Oysters in the Bay, Water Quality cause the menhadden to not enter the Bay, and water quality will cause the crabs larvae to not live in the bay either............Then again I'm sure he knows that too.......JMO.
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2011, 07:41:36 PM »
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Just another KNOW IT ALL, Ray...........Oyster limits didn't help the Oyster industry,Limits were set in place for over 40 years..... Herring Limits will not save the Herring Industry and crab Limits will not save the crabs either....Water quality Killed the Oysters in the Bay, Water Quality cause the menhadden to not enter the Bay, and water quality will cause the crabs larvae to not live in the bay either............Then again I'm sure he knows that too.......JMO.

Im not sure I agree with all of that.
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2011, 07:51:01 PM »
Quote from: ChrisS on September 19, 2011, 07:41:36 PM
Im not sure I agree with all of that.



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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2011, 07:56:06 PM »
I wish somebody would tell me Y the "big" bluefish don't come into the Bay anymore....  Huh Sad
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2011, 08:06:04 PM »
Some people are like slinkys.  They are good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs....
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2011, 08:16:29 PM »
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I wish somebody would tell me Y the "big" bluefish don't come into the Bay anymore....  Huh Sad




And Tuna and Blue Marlin.................The water just ain't quite right........ Grin
For the past 2 years all along the Upper North Carolina coast the Water temps have been very Cold, No Rock fish or Blues Caught along the Beach........


I just don't understand the people that think water Condition don't have anything to do with Fish, Oysters or Crabs........But they Know DDT killed the Bald Eagles, and Osprey's off almost to extinction................Chemicals Dumped into the Bay or any waterway HURT the resources.........How hard is that to Understand??   JMO
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2011, 09:13:06 PM »
I just think your opinion is mostly false, dont mean your wrong.....just that I dont agree. I believe over harvesting is ABSOLUTELY a factor in the decline of each of the forementioned species....beyond that, I dont feel like arguing with you and Ray about it any more regarding it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2011, 09:57:10 PM »
Quote from: ChrisS on September 19, 2011, 09:13:06 PM
I just think your opinion is mostly false, dont mean your wrong.....just that I dont agree. I believe over harvesting is ABSOLUTELY a factor in the decline of each of the forementioned species....beyond that, I dont feel like arguing with you and Ray about it any more regarding it.



I feel like YOU trying to tell me about Oyster Harvesting would be like me tell you how to operate you BobCat..........Unless you nay sayers have ever Oystered or even worked the Bay, how can you tell someone that has. how things operate? Oysters will die if they're not worked......Even farm/Dock raised oysters will die if not worked..and I'm not arguing, by no means.......
Have you seen the NASA Pics of the run-off coming down the Bay?  It's a GIANT SEPTIC TANK......But, you might be right..... Over Harvesting is Killing everything............ Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2011, 10:26:41 PM »
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And Tuna and Blue Marlin.................The water just ain't quite right........ Grin
For the past 2 years all along the Upper North Carolina coast the Water temps have been very Cold, No Rock fish or Blues Caught along the Beach........


I just don't understand the people that think water Condition don't have anything to do with Fish, Oysters or Crabs........But they Know DDT killed the Bald Eagles, and Osprey's off almost to extinction................Chemicals Dumped into the Bay or any waterway HURT the resources.........How hard is that to Understand??   JMO


Must be that global warming thing keeping the water telps cold. We need that guy that invented the internet to turn on more lights.
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