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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 08:47:45 PM »
Reds, . . . I don't know about MD but in VA the constitution says

"To the end that the people have clean air, pure water, and the use and enjoyment for recreation of adequate public lands, waters, and other natural resources, it shall be the policy of the Commonwealth to conserve, develop, and utilize its natural resources, its public lands, and its historical sites and buildings. Further, it shall be the Commonwealth's policy to protect its atmosphere, lands, and waters from pollution, impairment, or destruction, for the benefit, enjoyment, and general welfare of the people of the Commonwealth."

To me that means recreational use first commercial use if there is enough left after recreational use.  That means pollution, harvest, logging, etc.  Don't get me wrong I agree with reasonable harvest limits, etc. as well as commercial fisheries so long as things are sustainable.

You may not agree with the law of the (VA) land (i.e. State Constitution) but it is the law of the (VA) land.
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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2011, 08:54:50 PM »
Uh....to me that says the people decide how to manage their resource, not who gets it first.
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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2011, 09:47:40 PM »
In the end that the people have . . . legalese meaning this comes first.  . . .  everything else in this statement comes second.  

First comes

clean air. . Clean water . . . the use for enjoyment for use and recreation

the what is

public lands, waters, and other natural resources.  

What comes after (i.e. if there is enough) develop, and utilize its natural resources . . . .

Oh and  the Constitution is the guiding document for our elected and appointed (by the elected) officials not for the people.  The people's and the court's job is to make sure that the elected officials follow the Constitution.
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2011, 10:11:08 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ray III on October 05, 2011, 08:54:50 PM
Uh....to me that says the people decide how to manage their resource, not who gets it first.









The new Liberal way is to IMPORT everything Ray......... Wink
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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2011, 10:11:18 PM »
Quote from: Tom Powers on October 05, 2011, 09:47:40 PM
In the end that the people have . . . legalese meaning this comes first.  . . .  everything else in this statement comes second.  

First comes

clean air. . Clean water . . . the use for enjoyment for use and recreation

the what is

public lands, waters, and other natural resources.  

What comes after (i.e. if there is enough) develop, and utilize its natural resources . . . .

Oh and  the Constitution is the guiding document for our elected and appointed (by the elected) officials not for the people.  The people's and the court's job is to make sure that the elected officials follow the Constitution.

How does the saying go? Oh yeah....Hooray for me and F.... You....

Tom believes the people who are able to fish themselves, should take precedent over people who are not able.  Are You any relation to Marie Antoinette?
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2011, 10:13:44 PM »
Quote from: genecrabman on October 05, 2011, 10:11:08 PM

The new Liberal way is to IMPORT everything Ray......... Wink

Right on.   The liberals even imported our President from Chicago.    laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2011, 10:19:47 PM »
Quote from: Tom Powers on October 05, 2011, 09:47:40 PM
In the end that the people have . . . legalese meaning this comes first.  . . .  everything else in this statement comes second.  

First comes

clean air. . Clean water . . . the use for enjoyment for use and recreation

the what is

public lands, waters, and other natural resources.  

What comes after (i.e. if there is enough) develop, and utilize its natural resources . . . .

Oh and  the Constitution is the guiding document for our elected and appointed (by the elected) officials not for the people.  The people's and the court's job is to make sure that the elected officials follow the Constitution.








SO.................When did the air and waters in Va. get cleanned up??
Lets work on doing that before we put people out of work...

And People were Harvesting Seafood in the Bay and Va. long before they're were people out recreational Boating............
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2011, 12:01:39 AM »
Quote from: Ronster on October 05, 2011, 10:13:44 PM
Right on.   The liberals even imported our President from Chicago.    laugh laugh laugh

Having never seen any college transcripts and no one recalls seeing him on a campus I think he was imported from Kenya and should be returned!
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2011, 07:48:18 AM »
Quote from: Crabby Captn John on October 06, 2011, 12:01:39 AM
Having never seen any college transcripts and no one recalls seeing him on a campus I think he was imported from Kenya and should be returned!





ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grin
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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2011, 09:40:09 PM »
Quote from: genecrabman on October 05, 2011, 06:19:49 PM




I hope he bought a Skid Loader with that Money.............. Grin
TO HAUL ALL HIS MONEY>?
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2011, 09:04:35 AM »
Wow!! This thread has some amazingly ignorant comments.  Good luck.
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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2012, 08:41:33 AM »
Isn't it true that when dredging, the dredge pulls out crabs but also kills about the same amount? 
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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2012, 10:53:34 AM »
Quote from: bozcrab on January 17, 2012, 08:41:33 AM
Isn't it true that when dredging, the dredge pulls out crabs but also kills about the same amount? 




Va. has dredged for over 75 years, the sad part was the Hundreds of Watermen put out of Work....
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« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2012, 03:37:13 PM »
Quote from: Crabby Captn John on October 06, 2011, 12:01:39 AM
Having never seen any college transcripts and no one recalls seeing him on a campus I think he was imported from Kenya and should be returned!

No ya guys are wrong.  He came from Hawaii.  Where no one heard of him. Grin

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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2012, 04:09:11 PM »
Quote from: capt. ron on January 17, 2012, 03:37:13 PM
No ya guys are wrong.  He came from Hawaii.  Where no one heard of him. Grin

Ronnie
I don't care where he came from...I just wish he go somewhere else!!!!!
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« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2012, 01:30:45 AM »
My vote is back home in a nice jungle hut in Kenya!

Quote from: KI Crabber on January 17, 2012, 04:09:11 PM
I don't care where he came from...I just wish he go somewhere else!!!!!
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« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2012, 09:00:17 AM »
Quote from: capt. ron on January 17, 2012, 03:37:13 PM
No ya guys are wrong.  He came from Hawaii.  Where no one heard of him. Grin

Ronnie

correction - he came  thru  hawaii

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« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2012, 06:28:41 PM »
Yeah, I guess you're right.
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