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« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2011, 09:09:27 PM »
Quote from: madcrabber1113 on October 27, 2011, 07:53:24 PM
I found this    http://ian.umces.edu/pdfs/ecocheck_newsletter_286.pdf



What good are graphs when the DNR don't believe the numbers turned in by the Watermen...........
Never trust NOAA or DNR or EDF............It's too much money involved for them not to be corupt.. Wink
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« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2011, 09:20:04 PM »
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What good are graphs when the DNR don't believe the numbers turned in by the Watermen...........
Never trust NOAA or DNR or EDF............It's too much money involved for them not to be corupt.. Wink
   Not saying I have a solution,just saying this was an interesting read.The problem is too complex in my opinion for any one group to remedy.I do not claim to know how to fix it just thaught the article was interesting.
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« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2011, 09:28:56 PM »
Quote from: madcrabber1113 on October 27, 2011, 09:20:04 PM
   Not saying I have a solution,just saying this was an interesting read.The problem is too complex in my opinion for any one group to remedy.I do not claim to know how to fix it just thaught the article was interesting.



I agree...Very interesting..I guess I have "TRUST" Issues.... Grin

These Government groups sometimes pull numbers out of thin air,and put thousands of people out of work..NOAA has been caught being "NOT TRUTHFUL" before...Many people take these groups as being honest, when in fact they aren't..
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« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2011, 09:35:40 PM »
Quote from: genecrabman on October 27, 2011, 09:28:56 PM


I agree...Very interesting..I guess I have "TRUST" Issues.... Grin

These Government groups sometimes pull numbers out of thin air,and put thousands of people out of work..NOAA has been caught being "NOT TRUTHFUL" before...Many people take these groups as being honest, when in fact they aren't..
  I know what you mean.My local government has killed my business and thousands more.That is a very brief summary of it,plus it pisses me off that I have been over regulated and taxed and fees to death so I have no idea the people who are supposed to control my business heve no more people doing what I do.They have nothing to do but they do not lay anyone off and give them giant suvs to drive.Taxpayers are true victims in my book.This kind of abuse I could go on about for days.  Cry
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« Reply #104 on: October 27, 2011, 09:39:20 PM »
Quote from: madcrabber1113 on October 27, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
  I know what you mean.My local government has killed my business and thousands more.That is a very brief summary of it,plus it pisses me off that I have been over regulated and taxed and fees to death so I have no idea the people who are supposed to control my business heve no more people doing what I do.They have nothing to do but they do not lay anyone off and give them giant suvs to drive.Taxpayers are true victims in my book.This kind of abuse I could go on about for days.  Cry


 ;)Thats what I'm talking.............Our Government has become TOO BIG..........And it's them against the Working Folks.... Wink
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« Reply #105 on: October 27, 2011, 09:41:20 PM »
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 ;)Thats what I'm talking.............Our Government has become TOO BIG..........And it's them against the Working Folks.... Wink
  Yes and they always win in my experience.Makes me sick,some are like vultures.
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« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2011, 09:34:41 AM »
Quote from: madcrabber1113 on October 27, 2011, 07:53:24 PM
I found this    http://ian.umces.edu/pdfs/ecocheck_newsletter_286.pdf

The recreational catch is only 7%?

I find that hard to believe....
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« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2011, 12:17:39 PM »
there's no way its only 7%... but hey with bushel tags that should include recs too, the look on a recs face when he gets 4 bushel tags FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR will be priceless.  Unfortunately this will never happen.
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« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2011, 02:32:41 PM »
Quote from: SlickCam on October 28, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
there's no way its only 7%... but hey with bushel tags that should include recs too, the look on a recs face when he gets 4 bushel tags FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR will be priceless.  Unfortunately this will never happen.


hmmmm lets see.....me...my gf...my mom....my brother..my sis in law...my crab partner...my neighbor...set back my 28 tags awhile...heck I prob wont be able to  catch that many next year....lol
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« Reply #109 on: October 28, 2011, 04:09:36 PM »
Quote from: Captain C on October 28, 2011, 09:34:41 AM
The recreational catch is only 7%?

I find that hard to believe....




Robbie, when we go to catch shares, that means comms get 93% of the total harvest.  Recs will be left with about two dozen.   laugh 
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« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2011, 07:23:02 PM »
Quote from: Captain C on October 28, 2011, 09:34:41 AM
The recreational catch is only 7%?

I find that hard to believe....  



That is what I thaught.
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« Reply #111 on: October 30, 2011, 10:18:01 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Ray III on October 28, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
Robbie, when we go to catch shares, that means comms get 93% of the total harvest.  Recs will be left with about two dozen.   laugh 

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« Reply #112 on: October 31, 2011, 03:58:38 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ray III on October 28, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
Robbie, when we go to catch shares, that means comms get 93% of the total harvest.  Recs will be left with about two dozen.   laugh  

Then in a few years from now, you will have groups of avid crabbers complaining to Annapolis that allowing commercials to catch crabs is a waste of a Maryland resource and that allowing recs to catch a majority of the allocation is a better use of the resource because they spend more money to catch each crabs.  Laugh about it now while we can, but it's already happening with rockfish - and it will happen in the future with crabs.  It won't matter how healthy the population is.    
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Just one of the few bad apples that keeps wizzing in the MSSA's and TF's milk.  Not because I have violations (because I don't'), but because I'm catching the resources that they claim to own and have more rights to.
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« Reply #113 on: October 31, 2011, 06:48:38 PM »
Quote from: Big Liar on October 31, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
Then in a few years from now, you will have groups of avid crabbers complaining to Annapolis that allowing commercials to catch crabs is a waste of a Maryland resource and that allowing recs to catch a majority of the allocation is a better use of the resource because they spend more money to catch each crabs.  Laugh about it now while we can, but it's already happening with rockfish - and it will happen in the future with crabs.  It won't matter how healthy the population is.    

...that is a scary thought especially witth owe malley soon to be president. That's even scarier then all the haloween [curd] on tv.
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« Reply #114 on: October 31, 2011, 09:12:03 PM »
Quote from: Big Liar on October 31, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
Then in a few years from now, you will have groups of avid crabbers complaining to Annapolis that allowing commercials to catch crabs is a waste of a Maryland resource and that allowing recs to catch a majority of the allocation is a better use of the resource because they spend more money to catch each crabs.  Laugh about it now while we can, but it's already happening with rockfish - and it will happen in the future with crabs.  It won't matter how healthy the population is.    

Lemme guess....B-Clueless is still at it on that other site I used to frequent
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« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2011, 11:31:23 AM »
Of course.  He atleast is open and honest that he is greedy and wants to take away from the comm quota so he can get an increased daily limit and year round season.  Atleast he admits his greedy ways and is not sneaky like Brandie and a few others who won't admit that they just want it all for themselves.
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Just one of the few bad apples that keeps wizzing in the MSSA's and TF's milk.  Not because I have violations (because I don't'), but because I'm catching the resources that they claim to own and have more rights to.
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« Reply #116 on: November 01, 2011, 02:58:06 PM »
Quote from: C-Hawk18 on October 31, 2011, 09:12:03 PM
Lemme guess....B-Clueless is still at it on that other site I used to frequent

I think he has a paper that he pulls out and copies word for word everytime he posts. What a crock!
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