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« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2012, 08:58:43 PM »
picked this up in my travels

it is a 1960 evinrude 3 HP outboard - 52 years old

BUT

I don't think this has ever been in the water
paint still on the prop leading edge
all bolts have original paint
where it clamps on the stern has original paint
not froze - it's pristene

put some gas in it and it started on the second pull

will consider any reasonable offer over $800
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« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2012, 09:00:35 PM »
some more pictures

sucker sat in a basement for 50 years
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« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2012, 09:35:32 PM »
BTW - that 3 Hp is a twin cyclinder

pistons gotta be like an inch and a half in diameter

gotta clean it up for spring
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« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2012, 05:55:57 AM »
Nice find! Be carefull with that old paint while cleaning it up though, todays chemicals are a little more harsh! Would like to see some more pics of it all shined up!
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« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2012, 07:51:27 AM »
Let raven Dave know. I hear he loves antiques.  Grin
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« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2012, 09:00:04 AM »
Quote from: shedking on February 24, 2012, 07:51:27 AM
Let raven Dave know. I hear he loves antiques.  Grin


he knows....

before I run it for real. I'm putting in an impeller kit. 50 year old rubber gotta be brittle

here is one that has been restored

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FXgLD4AKjw

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no fuel pump
no shift, no neutral, start in drive, spin 180 for reverse
no motor tilt
no safety devices of any kind

note in the video - he has a replacement black pull handle. Mine still has the original baby blue handle
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« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2012, 03:02:33 PM »
It is a real beauty John.  Congrats!!!  With all that extra HP this would be perfect for ethiopian crabbers.
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« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2012, 03:04:33 PM »
Quote from: shedking on February 24, 2012, 07:51:27 AM
Let raven Dave know. I hear he loves antiques.  Grin
  John- I'll trade ya for a nice vintage trailer. Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2012, 03:52:47 PM »
Quote from: Ravendave on February 24, 2012, 03:04:33 PM
 John- I'll trade ya for a nice vintage trailer. Grin Grin Grin

check the dictionary - there is a big difference between Vintage and Pristine Versus old, beat up, broken and misssing parts

 Grin Grin

that trailer does have value ---  about 6 cents per pound

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« Reply #109 on: February 24, 2012, 04:34:03 PM »
I've got one that's a little older that my old man bought from a widow around 1955 - I think it's a 1952-53 and was like new. Looks identical to the one in this link; minus the scratches and dents.
http://youtu.be/BKjpC47UVI8  

Last used it around 1980 - ran like a top after I replaced the coils. Been stored in the basement ever since. I believe the oil/gas ratio was 35:1 if my memory is right! That's why they smoke so much.
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« Reply #110 on: February 24, 2012, 04:38:30 PM »
Quote from: Ravendave on February 24, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
It is a real beauty John.  Congrats!!!  With all that extra HP this would be perfect for ethiopian crabbers.

It actually appeals to collectors/canoe/small boat/inflatable people - only weighs around 30 pounds and it doesn't need an external gas tank

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« Reply #111 on: February 24, 2012, 04:45:56 PM »
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It actually appeals to collectors/canoe/small boat/inflatable people - only weighs around 30 pounds and it doesn't need an external gas tank

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Very cool.  Can't wait to see it.
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« Reply #112 on: February 24, 2012, 04:46:47 PM »
Quote from: mdjohn on February 24, 2012, 04:38:30 PM
It actually appeals to collectors/canoe/small boat/inflatable people - only weighs around 30 pounds and it doesn't need an external gas tank

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I didn't realize inflatable people needed outboards..... Smiley Any input DP?
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« Reply #113 on: February 24, 2012, 05:03:41 PM »
Quote from: Mikie on February 24, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
I've got one that's a little older that my old man bought from a widow around 1955 - I think it's a 1952-53 and was like new. Looks identical to the one in this link; minus the scratches and dents.
http://youtu.be/BKjpC47UVI8  

Last used it around 1980 - ran like a top after I replaced the coils. Been stored in the basement ever since. I believe the oil/gas ratio was 35:1 if my memory is right! That's why they smoke so much.

the first digits on the sticker are the year

http://www.marineengine.com/manuals/evinrude/#e3hp

1952 - that's pretty neat and parts are still available

I have to find out the ratio - I was guessing at 40 to 1 but I'll check before running it
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« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2012, 05:35:13 PM »
Better to mix 16 to1 if you want it to last. Use synthetic if the smoke bothers you. If you treat it right it will still be running in 50 years. Get cheap with the oil and it will fun for a few years...Charlie
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« Reply #115 on: February 24, 2012, 05:40:42 PM »
Quote from: Crabs n clams on February 24, 2012, 05:35:13 PM
Better to mix 16 to1 if you want it to last. Use synthetic if the smoke bothers you. If you treat it right it will still be running in 50 years. Get cheap with the oil and it will fun for a few years...Charlie

WOW this is a popular still going motor - mine is a 3034
 
looks like I'll try 25/1

http://www.marineengine.com/boat-forum/showthread.php?386794-1960-Evinrude-Lightwin-3hp-type-3034-fuel-oil-mix
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« Reply #116 on: February 24, 2012, 06:42:30 PM »
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Better to mix 16 to1 if you want it to last. Use synthetic if the smoke bothers you. If you treat it right it will still be running in 50 years. Get cheap with the oil and it will fun for a few years...Charlie

Well, since I've already had it for 57 years I guess I must be doing SOMETHING right. Wink When I decide to use it again I'll double check the stickers on the motor. Cool
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« Reply #117 on: February 24, 2012, 06:54:57 PM »
Your motor you can do what you want. I run my motors at the factory recomended oil mix and for that motor it is 16 to 1...Charlie
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« Reply #118 on: February 24, 2012, 07:07:41 PM »
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Your motor you can do what you want. I run my motors at the factory recomended oil mix and for that motor it is 16 to 1...Charlie

This is my last post on the subject - stated that I was going from memory on the mixture, which may or may not be correct since I haven't used the motor for years. When I go to use it again I will check the decals on the side of the motor (which are still intact) or the old 2 1/2 gal gas can which came with the motor, for the correct mixture. Having the original instructions is way better then relying on some internet postings. Have a nice day. Smiley
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« Reply #119 on: February 24, 2012, 08:13:02 PM »
Sorry if I offended you but my last post was aimed at the link to marineengines.com where you have a couple of people who have no idea what there talking about saying  "I heard this and it seems right" or something like that. I agree half the information you see on the web is wrong. Your right to follow the decal on your motor. The motor pictured above is an early 60's or there about Lightwin and the proper oil ratio is 16 to 1. You can run it on less and it will run fine but it won't last as long as it should. And oil is cheaper than parts and labor. But like I said anyone is free to do what they want...Charlie
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« Reply #120 on: February 24, 2012, 08:42:48 PM »
per evinrude

2 - What is the fuel/oil mix for my motor?
The following is generally true:
1958 and prior used 20:1,
1959 thru 1963 used 24:1,
1964 and newer use 50:1.
High performance usage (racing) requires a ratio of 25:1.
New engine break-in (not DI) requires 25:1.

http://www.evinrude.com/en-CA/Owners-Center/FAQ/OilAndFuel#qst2
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« Reply #121 on: April 15, 2012, 10:46:48 AM »
My winter project has run into the spring and it might run into early summer.  My goal was to restore an old boat, motor and trailer but I have found that the only thing salvagable is the motor.  Fortunatley snood sales have been good and I have a budget to work with to get another boat.
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« Reply #122 on: April 15, 2012, 05:00:27 PM »
Dats a lot of snoods.
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« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2012, 01:57:01 PM »

   Had many ideas but the Grandson's  sports sched kept things to a limit timewise.. Made 4 N.J. trot lines w/snoods. 150 ft. ea.
   an extra 165 soonds, and 32 new traps rigged w/floats and 15 ft. line and reconditioned 28 used traps. Now have 80 ready to
   rock and roll traps....now if it just gets a little warmer and the sports thing dies down for a couple days... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2012, 10:26:16 PM »
in my travels  I picked up a 1960 trash can or luggage cart with wheels for $8,,  that I thought  I could make into a motor stand for the 1960 motor

looked for scrap I had laying around

2 bolts, 3 screws, a piece of 2x6 wood and one hour later

and it's done

right transom angle, sturdy, looks good, looks old, has wheels etc
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