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« on: January 22, 2012, 11:40:42 AM »
Hypothetically:  If I had a were to get a commercial crab license that allowed me to trotline and I had 1-2 crewmembers that helped me from time to time, would they be able to operate my boat and catch crabs if I were not on board? - i.e. would I have to be on board everytime the boat was crabbing commercially.  I think the answer would be no but it's just one of those wintertime questions I was pondering.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 11:42:58 AM »
So long as your license has the boat #s on it they could run it without you there.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 11:56:06 AM »
They would need your comm. license card and as stated above, the license must be registered to the boat.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 12:04:01 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ray III on January 22, 2012, 11:56:06 AM
They would need your comm. license card and as stated above, the license must be registered to the boat.
  Ray,   would one need commercial boat Insurance ??
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 12:10:29 PM »
In VA waters they would have to be registered as "agents".  Also they would have to have your license and Watermans card onboard.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 12:26:51 PM »
Quote from: captaincrab55 on January 22, 2012, 12:04:01 PM
  Ray,   would one need commercial boat Insurance ??

I'm not sure.  I never checked into it.  Not to say that its not a law, but I have never heard of a law requiring insurance on a boat.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 01:08:39 PM »
Thanks for the responses.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 01:27:20 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ray III on January 22, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
I'm not sure.  I never checked into it.  Not to say that its not a law, but I have never heard of a law requiring insurance on a boat.
Ray,   I don't think it's law, but I'm sure non commercial boat insurance would refuse a claim on a commercial boating accident...
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 02:28:19 PM »
Quote from: captaincrab55 on January 22, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
Ray,   I don't think it's law, but I'm sure non commercial boat insurance would refuse a claim on a commercial boating accident...

Doesn't matter....I don't have insurance on any boat I own.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 06:34:33 PM »
Captaincrab55 - why don't you tell us what your agenda is on any of these discussions? You're constantly slamming the commercial guys, one way or the other, yet it appears that you have a commercial license. What gives?
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 06:57:17 PM »
Quote from: Mikie on January 22, 2012, 06:34:33 PM
Captaincrab55 - why don't you tell us what your agenda is on any of these discussions? You're constantly slamming the commercial guys, one way or the other, yet it appears that you have a commercial license. What gives?

I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees it.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 07:18:01 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 07:33:20 PM »
Quote from: captaincrab55 on January 22, 2012, 07:18:01 PM
  reds,    I offered to clear the air on another Forum with you by phone....    Remember Your answer??...   

So you rather dig yourself a hole. Keep it up your doing a great job.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 07:38:58 PM »
Let's not drag old fights from other forums over to this one.   
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 08:43:09 PM »
Quote from: captaincrab55 on January 22, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
Ray,   I don't think it's law, but I'm sure non commercial boat insurance would refuse a claim on a commercial boating accident...

As far as that goes your right but the burden of proof is on the insurance company. Also it voids motor warranty if your dumb enough to tell the dealer.
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2012, 11:25:47 PM »
Have a LCC, DNR adives Im required to be on the vessel for comm. pros/cons. Inquired about my younger brother working the boat for me when I cant. Have to show proff of insurance for workers comp to have that done, not insurance for boat. That was at centerville office. Everyone here knows answers are differnt everytime ask to DNR.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 03:43:29 AM »
Quote from: Dip Master on January 22, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
Have a LCC, DNR adives Im required to be on the vessel for comm. pros/cons. Inquired about my younger brother working the boat for me when I cant. Have to show proff of insurance for workers comp to have that done, not insurance for boat. That was at centerville office. Everyone here knows answers are differnt everytime ask to DNR.

What if I give my workers a 1099?
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 07:26:51 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Ray III on January 23, 2012, 03:43:29 AM
What if I give my workers a 1099?

Being a CPA, I can tell you that it shouldn't matter.  If you're handing out 1099's, either you or your workers would have to have WC insurance.  I imagine DNR would want to see the WC certificate from someone.

Being a guy who wishes he was a waterman instead of a CPA, I can tell you that it's sad that our government has nothing better to do than pick on someone who has to work his [arse] off to make a living.  You have a boat.  You have people willing and able to work it with or without coverage.  Who cares?
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Oh, de crab, he taste so fine.
Yuh catch 'um wid a neck an' a line.
Bile de water 'til 'e good 'n hot.
Den eat de crab strait from 'de pot.

Oh, de beer, he taste so chilly.
Drinks it 'til I gets too silly.
Washin' down 'de crab an' butter.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 09:18:59 AM »
check into workmens comp. reqiument futher, i think if it's family you don't need the wci. when it comes to working on a crab boat.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2012, 09:20:53 AM »
I don't believe you need Workman's Comp if you only employ family members.
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2012, 09:40:19 AM »
You guys may both be correct.  Workers' comp laws are dictated by state, and I was basing my comments on NJ law.  Don't know MD law.
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Yuh catch 'um wid a neck an' a line.
Bile de water 'til 'e good 'n hot.
Den eat de crab strait from 'de pot.

Oh, de beer, he taste so chilly.
Drinks it 'til I gets too silly.
Washin' down 'de crab an' butter.
If I doesn't fall down, I'll 'ave anudder.
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2012, 10:05:27 AM »
Quote from: crewstation on January 23, 2012, 09:40:19 AM
You guys may both be correct.  Workers' comp laws are dictated by state, and I was basing my comments on NJ law.  Don't know MD law.

In Maryland, if you are considered a independent contractor with no employees, you are exempt from workman's comp. That's why on a commercial vessel payment is in shares, rather then hourly, for the crew.

IIRC the same criteria is used as used to determine an employee for federal tax withholding.
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2012, 11:53:04 AM »
Quote from: Dip Master on January 22, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
Have a LCC, DNR adives Im required to be on the vessel for comm. pros/cons. Inquired about my younger brother working the boat for me when I cant. Have to show proff of insurance for workers comp to have that done, not insurance for boat. That was at centerville office. Everyone here knows answers are differnt everytime ask to DNR.

The girls at Centreville used to be very good. Unfortunately, I think the one's who were the best might have retired.
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