Another Case Where DNR is Out of Control

[captaincrab55]

Just wondering if DNR will consider doing this with Crabbing ??


Maryland wildlife officials say a new formula for allocating bear hunting permits could mean about half of the permits will be awarded to Allegany and Garrett counties, the counties where hunting is allowed.
   
The Maryland Wildlife and Heritage Service will award the first 25 percent of permits to applicants from the bear hunt zone. Those who aren't selected will compete in a drawing for the remaining 75 percent.
   
Residents of Allegany and Garrett counties draw an average of 35 percent of the permits, but service Director Paul Peditto says the new formula will boost that percentage.
   
With more local hunters with better access to private lands where nuisance bears tend to live, Peditto expects hunting to become a more efficient bear management tool.


Sunday, March 4 2012, 04:30 PM EST

[Ronster]

You'd think MD would want people visiting those Western most counties and bringing their money with them...

[redhanded]

So what are they goin to do with the preferance point system thay have in place now.  If the DNR is concerned about nuciance bears on private lands they should provide a list of land owners with the problem bears to hunters that did draw a permit in the Lottery with all the rest of ths MARYLAND residents

[indoe]

What they are trying to do is dumb! I have not hunted for bear yet but would like to in the near future. I do know the season does not last that long. It is over in like 2 weeks because the hunter shoot there limit. If they want to kill some of the bears that are causing trouble then they should have a separate hunt or let the land owner hunt the bear or get some one to do it for them.

[Mikie]

I don't really see that much wrong with it. It's very similar to what all of the Western States do with their resident/nonresident big game tags, don't hear too many complaints about that. Giving some preference to the people who actually make up the local communities by living and spending there all year long just makes sense.

[Seaweed]

Yeah, I don't see what the big deal is either... they're going to give the bear permits to Alleghany and Garrett Counties... so what... that's where the bears live 

[indoe]

The issue I have is the people from that 2 counties get 35% already. If they get the the first 25% then 35% that gives them over 50% of the possible tickets. Then the rest of the state and any other hunter from out of state have to share the rest of the tickets. Should people that live on the water get to crab and catch a bushel while everyone else can only catch a half because you don't live on the water? It just does not seem fair.

[captaincrab55]

The issue I have is the people from that 2 counties get 35% already. If they get the the first 25% then 35% that gives them over 50% of the possible tickets. Then the rest of the state and any other hunter from out of state have to share the rest of the tickets. Should people that live on the water get to crab and catch a bushel while everyone else can only catch a half because you don't live on the water? It just does not seem fair.

  Indoe,   you hit the nail on the head....

[Dreampixels]

Fight nice fellas, the residents of those counties just want to keep some for themselves. Residents First, Non-residents later - simple math - preached here all the time. Get Over It!

[rdbeard]

 Also, thier reason is ligit. They want more locals than not becuase they are most likley to get permission on private land where most of these bears are doing damage. most land owners won't let you hunt if they don't know you. the other option would be to just give crop damage permits to the affected farmers but that too would take away form public hunting. hey down here they would hire sharp shooters to just kill them at night like they do the deer now. besides that who told you that life would be fair, life is what you maje it. And yes DNR is out of control.

[jack1747]

The issue I have is the people from that 2 counties get 35% already. If they get the the first 25% then 35% that gives them over 50% of the possible tickets. Then the rest of the state and any other hunter from out of state have to share the rest of the tickets. Should people that live on the water get to crab and catch a bushel while everyone else can only catch a half because you don't live on the water? It just does not seem fair.

Yes.  Actually, I believe if you don't live on the waterfront, you should't be allowed on the water at all. 

[reds]

Yes.  Actually, I believe if you don't live on the waterfront, you should't be allowed on the water at all. 

I think if you can't trace you linage back 200 years on the eastern shore, you shouldn't even be living there.

[Mikie]

I think if you can't trace you linage back 200 years on the eastern shore, you shouldn't even be living there.

Ouch!! My lineage includes Poes (such as Edgar Allen Poe) but I never traced where they lived or came from. Guess you're just stuck with me for a few more years because I ain't leaving just yet!

[jack1747]

Folks down here don't concider Maryland the eastern shore.

[mdjohn]

Yes.   Actually, I believe if you don't live on the waterfront, you should't be allowed on the water at all.  

crazy talk -- next you'll be saying all the money, you worked hard to earn, you should keep

then you'll say -- if you don't pay taxes, you should not be allowed to vote

 

[Mikie]

Folks down here don't concider Maryland the eastern shore.

Kent Island was settled in 1631 - does that mean WE win since we were 33 years earlier??

[indoe]

RD I never said life was fair. I just think that a lot of the issues with most of the bears would be in residential areas and not the farms. Unless the bear is taking down live stock most of the complaints I would think would be coming from home owners not farmers. I'm sure a heard of deer eat more the one or two bears.

Yes.  Actually, I believe if you don't live on the waterfront, you shouldn't be allowed on the water at all. 

Jack I will take that as an invitation for everyone to come to your house to go fishing and crabbing. Since most of us do not live on the water we will have to go with you on your boat.  But since there are no crabs in VA we will have to go to MD to crab.

[redhanded]

It wouldn't be to hard to find Jacks House since there only like 5 houses in Saxis

Jack,  Do you know Lisa Bird?

[reds]

Ouch!! My lineage includes Poes (such as Edgar Allen Poe) but I never traced where they lived or came from. Guess you're just stuck with me for a few more years because I ain't leaving just yet!

Edgar Allen Poe.
Is that the Ravens mascot??? 

[ChrisS]

The state is provding the funding for the "Bear project", therefore the whole state should have equal and fair share at being able to harvest one as well. If they want to give 25% more preference to locals, then they can foot 25% more of the bill.

Bear Science, was THE top reason DNR needed more money and want to raise your hunting license fees.

[ChrisS]

Per Paul Peditto

As promised, more info, this time from the game mammal side of the operation. Again, we're not going to get crazy fat off of this proposal - just hoping to keep the lights on, avoid cutting those projects that are the difference between having good science that allows us to continue hunting certain species and amp up our service to the public where appropriate - including continued underwriting of the law enforcement arm of DNR.

Hope this helps continue to inform the conversation.
Thanks
Paul

The following projects are dependent upon continued funding levels:

1. Black Bear Scent Station Survey: This long-term survey has been conducted in western Maryland since 1993. It provides valuable black bear population trend information throughout Maryland’s black bear range. If the ability to conduct this survey was lost, it would negatively impact our ability to make sound management decisions regarding bear management in Maryland.

2. WHS will soon begin the process to produce the next 10-year black bear management plan. Managing black bears is a complex and controversial endeavor and requires significant public involvement during the planning stage to ensure a sound management plan is developed. In order to effectively consider public opinions and objectives regarding black bear management, a public opinion survey must be implemented. These scientifically valid surveys are specialized tools that are costly to produce and implement (approximately $40,000). Without adequate funding, WHS would not have the ability to collect this pertinent information and the quality and effectiveness of the next 10-year management plan will suffer.

3. CWD monitoring: In 2010, Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) was identified in a free-ranging white-tailed deer in Allegany County, Maryland. This is the first confirmed case of CWD in Maryland. CWD is a naturally occurring disease of the brain and nervous system that causes death in deer. It has the ability to substantially impact localized deer populations and recreational opportunities for Maryland’s deer hunters. WHS has been testing for CWD since 2002. Much of the funding used to manage this disease has been obtained through USDA grants. However, annual USDA grants continue to decrease and cannot be relied upon to fully manage this disease in Maryland since these grants are dependent upon congressional approval each year. Ramifications of having CWD in deer populations in the eastern United States are largely unknown. It is imperative that we continue to fund CWD management and research activities in Maryland.

4. Suburban Deer Management: Deer project staff routinely meet with local communities within Maryland’s growing suburban areas regarding deer management issues. Staff regularly meet with county natural resources staff, biologists of federal institutions, and private community groups to assist with deer management opportunities - the vast majority resulting in additional hunting opportunities. As deer populations in suburban areas increase, more communities look to WHS for support. Without adequate funding, WHS may not be able to continue offering this support to local governments and communities in Maryland.

5. Bowhunter Survey: This survey is the only statewide tool that we have available for monitoring trends in all furbearer species populations. The survey provides important trend information for furbearer species and forest game species across the state. The loss of this survey would negatively impact our ability to make sound management decisions regarding furbearer management in Maryland.

6. Furbearer Survey: This survey is the most reliable source of harvest data for most furbearer species in Maryland. The survey provides important trend information and harvest data for a suite of species that is generally difficult to evaluate. The loss of this survey would negatively impact our ability to make sound management decisions regarding furbearer management in Maryland.


The following valuable projects could be implemented or improved with an increase in funding:

1. Whitetail Deer Research: With the discovery of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in Maryland, WHS is interested in researching the disease as it relates to the health of the overall deer population and how hunters and the public respond to the presence of the disease. With additional funding, WHS could partner with other researchers to conduct this research. Likewise, additional research on local deer populations regarding hunter preference issues like antler restrictions and harvest management would be possible with new revenue.

2. Furbearer/Predator Research: We remain without essential data on several key furbearers and the social/ecological impacts of these species. WHS is interested in determining distribution and abundance data for these predators (coyote, bobcat, etc.) and interspecific interactions of these predators with potential prey species (e.g. deer, turkey, rabbit, etc.). Increased funding could enable WHS to undertake these complex research projects. 
     

[captaincrab55]

The state is provding the funding for the "Bear project", therefore the whole state should have equal and fair share at being able to harvest one as well. If they want to give 25% more preference to locals, then they can foot 25% more of the bill.

Bear Science, was THE top reason DNR needed more money and want to raise your hunting license fees.

  Simple Math should enlighten those that doubt that DNR is out of control...

[rdbeard]

indoe, bears eat alot of corn and other crops, if expence is the problem then DNR could issue more crop damage permits like they do with deer now but that would take away from hunting oppertunity.

[Big Liar]

Folks down here don't concider Maryland the eastern shore.

Hey Jack,

     Did not know you were from Saxis.  My wife likes to camp down at Tall Pines, so I get down that way to visit a friend of mine that you may know a couple of times a year.  By chance do you know Peaches?  I can't imagine many people on the Island that don't know him.

[jack1747]

Hey Jack,

     Did not know you were from Saxis.  My wife likes to camp down at Tall Pines, so I get down that way to visit a friend of mine that you may know a couple of times a year.  By chance do you know Peaches?  I can't imagine many people on the Island that don't know him.

I know the name.... Then again, I might be thinking about a girl in High School.