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I live on Sanibel Island on the sw coast of Florida. recently I have been hearing about all these crab pots washing up on the beach in rough surf.one person said they saw people filling up buckets with the crabs out of the traps. Is it still illegal to mess with traps that are washed up on a beach ? the crabs will surely die in the sun.
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If my car gets picked up in a flood and floats 10 miles away, is it ok for people to break into it and take my radio?
I'd say if the pot can be identified (buoy # for example) then don't mess with it.
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Quote from: Ronster on May 01, 2012, 04:05:18 PM
If my car gets picked up in a flood and floats 10 miles away, is it ok for people to break into it and take my radio?
I'd say if the pot can be identified (buoy # for example) then don't mess with it.
Good Point Ron...
What ashame to waist all those crabs though..
Im pretty sure the city will pick them up and hopefully try to locate the owner.
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I am willing to bet if you could locate and return the trap to the owner he would be more than happy to have his trap back even empty...Just sayin
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Quote from: fishingtom on May 01, 2012, 04:13:14 PM
I am willing to bet if you could locate and return the trap to the owner he would be more than happy to have his trap back even empty...Just sayin
or maybe even give a dozen crabs as a reward..
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Are ya'll kidding! Take the Dam@ crabs and enjoy. If you find the trap owner so much the better. BTW if your car washes up on the beach or your boat for that matter I think salvage rules come into play at a certain point and yes I can "steal" your radio or your whole car if that is the way you look at it.
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I say take the crabs. They would probably die anyway. Leave the pot, unless you know you can get it back to the owner. I'd find mine sooner or later.
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Leave the crab pot. Take the cannolis.
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Leave the crab pot. Take the cannolis.
Mutzy said so!
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Take the crabs. and if your car gets washed away for 10 miles, isn't that what insurance is for
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a third degree felony in Florida
http://collier.ifas.ufl.edu/SeaGrant/pubs/Fact%20Sheet%20on%20Derelict%20Crab%20Traps%5B1%5D.pdf
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Mutzy said so!
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Quote from: Ronster on May 01, 2012, 04:05:18 PM
If my car gets picked up in a flood and floats 10 miles away, is it ok for people to break into it and take my radio?
I'd say if the pot can be identified (buoy # for example) then don't mess with it.
Or your Harley swept out to sea by a Tsunami.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57426125/tsunami-swept-harley-washes-ashore-in-canada/
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If that bike was inside a container - why is it partially buried in the sand?
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Quote from: Ronster on May 01, 2012, 04:05:18 PM
If my car gets picked up in a flood and floats 10 miles away, is it ok for people to break into it and take my radio?
I'd say if the pot can be identified (buoy # for example) then don't mess with it.
OK - your car washes up with two puppies inside with the doors unlocked and all the windows rolled up
so do you let the adorably cute little puppies die a slow death ........ because the guy was too lazy to pull in his traps with a storm coming
are they derelict or abandoned or discarded
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Well it wasn't Mitts car or they would have been on the roof and it wasn't Obamas car or he would have ate them
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Yes, 3rd degree felony in Fl. and whats to keep some thief from dragging a trap up to the beach and stealing the crabs.
I find someone doing that you can bet your a## I'll be parked outside the state attorney's office hounding them to bring charges.
It isn't your traps so leave them alone...
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if you set the crabs free, it's not stealing and the owner of the trap could be subject to animal cruelty and placing his traps in non allowed areas, maybe add littering
BTW if my house is on fire with my kids inside and the front door locked.
please break down my door and rescue my kids. Even if it is breaking and entering, destruction of property, trespassing and possibly kidnapping
I remember when we had common sense
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Quote from: mdjohn on May 03, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
BTW if my house is on fire with my kids inside and the front door locked.
please break down my door and rescue my kids. Even if it is breaking and entering, destruction of property, trespassing and possibly kidnapping
I thought this was a silly thread until this post.
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Quote from: mdjohn on May 03, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
if you set the crabs free, it's not stealing and the owner of the trap could be subject to animal cruelty and placing his traps in non allowed areas, maybe add littering
BTW if my house is on fire with my kids inside and the front door locked.
please break down my door and rescue my kids. Even if it is breaking and entering, destruction of property, trespassing and possibly kidnapping
I remember when we had common sense
I'd rescue your kids, but we have a problem with theft here so it's a 3rd degree felony to molest crab traps, even apparently abandoned traps, traps in the marsh, on the beach, etc, etc..
Traps move during storms, I've had some move 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile during a good blow, I find them, no big deal.
To lazy to bring them in? No, but with 3000 traps that not feasible or really possible.
If your really concerned with the crabs welfare then throw the trap back in the surf, don't steal the mans crabs.
Common sense is you don't mess with what ain't yours.
I apologize, I didn't think about you being that close to D.C. and your idea of common sense being different from the rest of the country(excluding CA).
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Quote from: ACFISHERIES on May 03, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
I'd rescue your kids, but we have a problem with theft here so it's a 3rd degree felony to molest crab traps, even apparently abandoned traps, traps in the marsh, on the beach, etc, etc..
Traps move during storms, I've had some move 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile during a good blow, I find them, no big deal.
To lazy to bring them in? No, but with 3000 traps that not feasible or really possible.
If your really concerned with the crabs welfare then throw the trap back in the surf, don't steal the mans crabs.
Common sense is you don't mess with what ain't yours.
I apologize, I didn't think about you being that close to D.C. and your idea of common sense being different from the rest of the country(excluding CA).
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Quote from: ACFISHERIES on May 03, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
I'd rescue your kids, but we have a problem with theft here so it's a 3rd degree felony to molest crab traps, even apparently abandoned traps, traps in the marsh, on the beach, etc, etc..
Traps move during storms, I've had some move 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile during a good blow, I find them, no big deal.
To lazy to bring them in? No, but with 3000 traps that not feasible or really possible.
If your really concerned with the crabs welfare then throw the trap back in the surf, don't steal the mans crabs.
Common sense is you don't mess with what ain't yours.
I apologize, I didn't think about you being that close to D.C. and your idea of common sense being different from the rest of the country(excluding CA).
Touche'
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Quote from: Mikie on May 03, 2012, 06:25:00 PM
Touche'
talked to the boys and the genereal feeling is if you find the owner - charge him $150 per trap to clean up the beach, can't renew license til he pays
NOT ONE waterman took responsibility for their derelict traps and said we should clean this up
you guys just scream -- just don't touch my trash traps
and you wonder why
nuff said
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Quote from: ACFISHERIES on May 03, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
If your really concerned with the crabs welfare then throw the trap back in the surf, don't steal the
mans crabs
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Common sense is you don't mess with what ain't yours.
Will the MAN come back and check his traps that were laying on the beach and are now in the surf because I care and I put them in the surf
It's called RESPONSIBILITY not arrogance
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Quote from: mdjohn on May 03, 2012, 08:06:37 PM
talked to the boys and the genereal feeling is if you find the owner - charge him $150 per trap to clean up the beach, can't renew license til he pays
NOT ONE waterman took responsibility for their derelict traps and said we should clean this up
you guys just scream -- just don't touch my trash traps
and you wonder why
nuff said
Can't tell if this sarcasm/humor or not?
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