Wye River Great Learning Experience 6/23

[crabman1969]

I said I saw him drive by once but did not see him running his trotline. His dipper wasn't in the water at that time and he was coming by real fast. It wasn't a 1k line it was more like a 5k line to be honest I even looked for his buoys as I saw him coming by and didn't see it cause his line was so long. Maybe I am just a noob but I am not being a dick about the situation. Just want to have a good family day on the Wye that's all.

Dude you made an honest mistake thats all.  Nobody has the right to cut anyones line.  The guy should of just came over to you and told you to pick your line up, its that simple.  You have traps now and can crab where he cant. Inside nooks and crannys or around sandbars with a depth finder.  Like I said I keep my boat by him and am not sure what comm. guy it is but am sure I have spoken to him.  15 or 20 years ago I am not going to say what I would of done in your situation. I wasnt on medication then!  Anyone that is gonna beef with the comm. down there is gonna loose. They all stick together including the police.  So like I said stay away from them.

[simonakamrbrown]

so an honest man has to lose time and money on the water waiting hours for the man to show up because you dont know what you are doing and lay across him??  then you wanna pull his trotline around with your boat ?  and thats ok ?  I cant beleive you pulled the " I would call a lawyer card" What are you gonna sue for ?  the charge to tie a knot?

Flounderpounder I wouldn't say he would have to wait hours for the police but it would have only taken me 5 minutes to pull the line up. Like I said I am pretty sure he knew my line was over his and I realized it right when I saw him coming around the corner. I would have drove over there and removed it but wouldn't want someone screaming cause my boat is in their way when they are running the line so I waited and was hoping he would stop and give me a chance to remove the line.

Oh well....I can't even say that this won't happen again but I will try harder to look for that buoy. In this situation his 5k line was going around a very slight bend so it was real hard to see the buoy. A buoy a mile away is just hard to see period.

[Dreampixels]

Flounderpounder I wouldn't say he would have to wait hours for the police but it would have only taken me 5 minutes to pull the line up. Like I said I am pretty sure he knew my line was over his and I realized it right when I saw him coming around the corner. I would have drove over there and removed it but wouldn't want someone screaming cause my boat is in their way when they are running the line so I waited and was hoping he would stop and give me a chance to remove the line.

Oh well....I can't even say that this won't happen again but I will try harder to look for that buoy. In this situation his 5k line was going around a very slight bend so it was real hard to see the buoy. A buoy a mile away is just hard to see period.

you are so correct - but when on the water it takes the understanding of both parties - once when crabbing with traps I had a line across the river - something I normally do not do - but it was late in the season - few crabbers out there and so on - after a few runs this commercial crabbers comes up the river laying out what could have been 1000's feet of line right through my trap line - so I began picking up my traps - while doing so he passed and Deeply Apologized for doing such - he told me many times he was sorry but did not see my line of traps - we talked he give me some late seasnon tips and we parted - I picked up my traps to be out of his way.

It is just common sense to me - that man was making a living - I was having fun - the advise he gave was well worth any crabs I did not get.

Sometimes the bounty is not all in crabs!  Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a life time.

[flounderpounder]

My very first lay of a line ended the same way - he was pissed - I do not know whom we was - but he was kind enuff to wait until I picked up my 300 ft line - on the Commercial Side - I have bumped into and dealt with far more considerate ones then not - should I ever lay across anyone ones line it will be an homest mistake - should you decide to cut my line - just to let ya know - ya did not get a Cherry - I has done it myself with the prop........


 And what did I do - I called Jeff to help me figure out what to do next.



Crab on Garth.......

crab on Wayne 

[simonakamrbrown]

On a side note..anybody have any good pointers on how to set the line and retrieve it or any tips in general? I am using a garden hose reel to retrieve my line and I heard you can tie your line to the boat and drive it to pop the chicken necks off. I think my 10 pound mushroom weight was too light and it is causing my line to go slack. I bought cinder blocks as replacement just in case that's the cause.

I was thinking about cutting my line to 250' and try that first before going back to 500' but I hope to start running 1k eventually once I get the hang of it since I have 1k already made. For now I will use traps and use the line to practice in between runs.

I bait on the water and let my line drift as I am baiting....is that the correct way to do it?

[crabman1969]

On a side note..anybody have any good pointers on how to set the line and retrieve it or any tips in general? I am using a garden hose reel to retrieve my line and I heard you can tie your line to the boat and drive it to pop the chicken necks off. I think my 10 pound mushroom weight was too light and it is causing my line to go slack. I bought cinder blocks as replacement just in case that's the cause.

I was thinking about cutting my line to 250' and try that first before going back to 500' but I hope to start running 1k eventually once I get the hang of it since I have 1k already made. For now I will use traps and use the line to practice in between runs.

I bait on the water and let my line drift as I am baiting....is that the correct way to do it?

cinderblocks will fix the anchor problem.  Bait your line at home! 

[crabman1969]

cinderblocks will fix the anchor problem.  Bait your line at home! 

If crabbing in 10ft. of water then use 20 ft. of anchor line to bouy and the same amount to the chain.  I use 50 ft. cause I sometimes run my line in 20 ft. of water.  Better to use more then less.

[simonakamrbrown]

Dude you made an honest mistake thats all.  Nobody has the right to cut anyones line.  The guy should of just came over to you and told you to pick your line up, its that simple.  You have traps now and can crab where he cant. Inside nooks and crannys or around sandbars with a depth finder.  Like I said I keep my boat by him and am not sure what comm. guy it is but am sure I have spoken to him.  15 or 20 years ago I am not going to say what I would of done in your situation. I wasnt on medication then!  Anyone that is gonna beef with the comm. down there is gonna loose. They all stick together including the police.  So like I said stay away from them.

I am looking forward to crabbing those nooks and crannies and hoping to catch my first bushel ever! Came close to getting a bushel a decade ago on a Schnaitman's rental with traps. Hope nothing bad happen to Henpot. He seemed like the nicest person in the world. He even told me stories about how the guys on the forum get together and have crab parties and asked me to stop by if I wanted. That was my first time ever on the wye and I was wondering if I should be worried or not since I just met the guy. Lol

[simonakamrbrown]

cinderblocks will fix the anchor problem.  Bait your line at home!  

Thanks for the tips. I was thinking about baiting my line at home but I wouldn't be able to freeze it. If I bait at home then it will have to sit on the hose reel for 2 hours before I can get it in the water with the drive and finding a spot. Will that be ok? I don't use brine or anything. Should I consider that?

[crabman1969]

I am looking forward to crabbing those nooks and crannies and hoping to catch my first bushel ever! Came close to getting a bushel a decade ago on a Schnaitman's rental with traps. Hope nothing bad happen to Henpot. He seemed like the nicest person in the world. He even told me stories about how the guys on the forum get together and have crab parties and asked me to stop by if I wanted. That was my first time ever on the wye and I was wondering if I should be worried or not since I just met the guy. Lol

Dont know the guy but never seen noone down there with bent wrist!   

[German82407]

Get a plastic rubbermaid container big enough to fit the hose reel. You can throw some ice in there as well. I use the container as my cull basket. Crabs can't climb out of it.

[Dreampixels]

Get a plastic rubbermaid container big enough to fit the hose reel. You can throw some ice in there as well. I use the container as my cull basket. Crabs can't climb out of it.

Some knowledge and truth I picked up on here - u can teach an old dog new tricks if the old dog is willing to listen

[Crabbyd]

No it wouldn't. He had no right to cut the line. He has no right to take the law into his own hands. He has a problem call the law,if he he wants to to take the law into his own hands be prepared with other people actions. Great way way to start (curd) ,well I don't take sh%t from people taking the law into there own hands.

two wrongs make it right?  I do know 3 rights make a left and 3 lefts make a right.   

just lick your wounds and move on.  this is how this get out of hand.  If unsure where someone is laid out at, ask!

[Crabbyd]

If I was to do that then I would probally be renting boats at the wye.  Just take it as a lesson and stay away from them guys.  Some of them are ok but the rest

99.99% are ok.....just like 99.99% of recs are ok.  Stop trying to make it worse.

[Crabbyd]

do you even know what happens when an autodipper boat...or any boat for that matter runs over a line thats crossed if he dosent cut it? their     its not vigilante justice....its just cutting a line   when you call your LAWYER...ask him if he can tie a knot

Does he have the right to cut it,NO! Call the law!


who do you think was going to have to go overboard to get the crossed line out of his wheel as he went over it and it was at the surface.  Cutting is was the better of the two options.  If he didnt, there wouldnt be any line left after he was done wrapping it in his shaft and wheel not to mention the possible substantial damage to the drive unit on the boat.

[Crabbyd]

I said I saw him drive by once but did not see him running his trotline. His dipper wasn't in the water at that time and he was coming by real fast. It wasn't a 1k line it was more like a 5k line to be honest I even looked for his buoys as I saw him coming by and didn't see it cause his line was so long. Maybe I am just a noob but I am not being a dick about the situation. Just want to have a good family day on the Wye that's all.

Is there many places on the Wye that you could run a mile of line at?  I sure cant think of too many and still have it be productive.  Most dont run that much line anywheres at one stretch.  2400 or maybe 3600 but almost a mile (5,000) of line isnt common and less common on smaller rivers like the Wye

[rdbeard]

I have cut rec. lines in the past, not often but have done it. Ive also picked up rec traps and thrown them as far as i could. Both of these involed recs. who were new to crabbing and didn't have a clue AFTER i told them they had to move their gear. some times i don';t have the time to explain and i deem it safer to cut or move gear myself, if some gets offended tough. I don't think it's illeagel to cut or move rec gear, it is absoulutly against the law to cut move or just interfear with comm. fishing operations. Most rwecs are good and understand whats going on same applies to most comm.

[soggybottomboyz]

sounds like game on!!

[on the hook]

Henpot (Kerb) Is no longer on the forum

I miss Kirb.....he made a ton of traps and crabbed a ton too..didn't even like em

[Mikie]

I watched an old guy and his small grandson lay a line over a commercial line in the mouth of Greenwood Creek a few years ago. The commercial line started outside the mouth and ran up into the creek where you couldn't see the other end or the boat while he was running it. The old guy starts running his line and never looks behind him, the commercial guy comes out of the creek and starts running his line. When the rec line came up on his line, he cut it. Old guy never looks back and doesn't understand what just happened. He goes back to the beginning of his line, picks it up and ties it back together - and proceeds to put it back in the SAME place over the comm's line. Same scenario all over - comm guy starts his line and bingo, here comes the rec line and he cuts it again. The old guy goes back, reties it and lays it in the same place AGAIN. After the THIRD time the commercial guy cut his line, I finally motored over to the old guy and explained to him what was going on. He didn't have a clue, but he picked up his line and moved - problem solved.

[CrabDog]

two wrongs make it right?  I do know 3 rights make a left and 3 lefts make a right.   

just lick your wounds and move on.  this is how this get out of hand.  If unsure where someone is laid out at, ask!

Two wrongs don't make a right, but two wrights make an airplane.... sorry little OBX humor.....  Gotta to agree D, I do not have issues with getting in Comm's ways as I stop and ask them where they are running... or I sit and watch until I see where they are.. most apppreciate you asking before you end up laying on them...  a few might not say anything or give you a look, but at least I made the effort.....By asking ahead of time and laying away from them, I even had a comm pick up two of my traps that had floated off a ledge and wave me over and give them back to me...so you get what you sow....so I always ask or watch ... even if it takes 20 minutes to figure out where to lay I know the rest of my time on the ewater crabbing will not be full of confrontation.... and avoid the whole thing...  Alot of times the Comms will not only tell you where they are, but will tell you where you can lay and get some crabs......  I am out to have fun and catch a few not get into a fight or worse...... probably good thing MD doesn't allow Carry cancelled or half the river's might be become the OK Coral   

[Dreampixels]

The Old Guy story and 3x times of cut line is funny right there I tell ya.

[KI Crabber]

The Old Guy story and 3x times of cut line is funny right there I tell ya.

So that's why your line has so many knots in it??? 

[Dreampixels]

No mine are Prop Knots.............

[CrabDog]

So that's why your line has so many knots in it??? 

Now that's funny...