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bassman349

Quote from: anchor on January 13, 2011, 07:08:51 PM
a liver shot is usually not a kill shot with a bow, unless you hit the heart or both lungs nothing in the field is a kill shot.

I disagree with a liver shot not being a kill shot. A liver shot deer will bleed out and die, it just takes a lot longer than a lung shot. This knowledge is from personal experience. 

Mikie

Like I said originally - a lot of controversy about how soon to track a wounded deer. I'll stick with trailing them as soon as I can. I don't want to trail dried up blood drops and don't want meat that's been allowed to sit overnight with shot-up guts, etc. The best example I can offer is one I recovered that was originally hit in the front leg BELOW the knee with an old Remington 1100 smooth bore slug barrel and old Remington foster type slugs. Tracked that deer immediately through a lot of red leaf honeysuckle, finding small, wet drops of blood and kicked up leaves. Jumped it numerous times and eventually got a killing shot to finish it off. If I had waited 4 hours or until the next day, that deer would have been lost. If it's going to snow or rain before you start tracking, your deer is probably going to be lost. It's all a matter of preference.

boater2579

Don't take bad shots , if you don't have a good shot then don't shoot.. I have passed up the biggest buck I have ever seen because there was some brush in the hopes he would show himself again , well he did show up again but way to far to shoot with a bow , but at least he is still out there I think , maybe some Else got him , but if you take a bad shoot at a deer and are unable to find it then no one gets the deer and it goes to waste.... 
   If you hit a deer low in the front leg its a bad shot no way around it , and you were lucky to get the deer, but good for you for staying after it and getting the deer.

1-mo-run

I understand that these are just opinions and every body has there own way of doing things. That being said, one thing I know for sure is that if someone tells me they've never made a bad shot (even at an animal that is close), missed or never lost an animal after hitting it, is either full of [curd] or hasn't been hunting that long. It happens ! We just have to learn from our mistakes and try not to do it again.
As far as when to start tracking, I'm in the wait a while category. Sometimes even the most accurately placed shot is hard to see at that moment. I've shot deer right in the "boiler room" with both gun and bow and had them act like you never even touched um ! so unless I'm 100 % certain and I don't see them go down, I'll wait at least a half hour before I go and see what kind of blood I have. Even then I'll let the color/amt. of blood I have tell me the rest. As far as the adrenalin theory goes, I look at it this way. If you have a deer that is hardly bleeding or gut shot and you spoke them up, there gonna take off like a bat out of haiti. Taking long bounding leaps, running through things they normally wouldn't and/or clogging up whatever wound you may have, especially w/ a gut shot wound. By not tracking right away you give them a chance to lay down, follow the path of least resistance, bleed out, and or stiffen up where they can't go as hard as they can just after being hit.
Understandably, the earlier in the season it is, the quicker you recover them the better due to the warmer temps.
As far as getting out of the stand a half hour early so you don't have to track in the dark, I guess depends on where you hunt. As for me and where I hunt ( all public lands) the best part of the day is that first and last half hour. Thats what flashlights are for !
This is what makes hunting so fun! There are so many variables and no two kills are the same. Another thing is that, I don't care how good you are at hitting the target either at home or at a range, shooting at a live animal with your heart pounding and every sense at full alert is TOTALLY different !

Don't tell God how big your mountain is. Tell your mountain how big your God is !

boater2579

1-mo-run you are 100% right in the fact that every hunter at one time or another makes a bad shot or does not find a deer!  I know I have lost deer in the past. It does happen.

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bassman349

Quote from: boater2579 on January 14, 2011, 03:36:40 PM
1-mo-run you are 100% right in the fact that every hunter at one time or another makes a bad shot or does not find a deer!  I know I have lost deer in the past. It does happen.

I've never lost a deer,  I just couldn't find it.   ;)

crabbingcraigy

Neck shots bring them down everytime, or just above the front legs no tracking....
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indoe

If you do not want to track a deer I would suggest shooting them in the front legs with a gun. It's hard to go anywhere with both front legs gone. But with an arrow I think anyone can make a bad shot. Arrows can be moved by the wind, a small branch or just be shaking a little too much. Not to say a bad shot can't be made with a gun as well but I think an arrow just has more factors that can change the trajectory. No one is perfect and if you say you are why haven't you changed the world into a better place for everyone. Everyone would be rich and no one would ever go hungry. So don't even try.   :laugh:
Crabbing, Fishing and Hunting = Me happy!

capt. ron

Lost one this season 12-07-10.  Evening shot of course.  Pulled the trigger at 1545 hrs.  Found blood and some broken bone.  Probally hit him in his upper leg.  Tracked blood for over a hundred yards.  With any luck he will survive.  This will be the last time I use ballistic tip rounds! 
Saw plenty of rack bucks but the deer gods were against me this year.  Either they caught my sent,  in saplings or behind branches I just couldn't put the crosshairs where they needed to be.  Let some spikes and does walk around me all year.  Not like they were far shots either,  40 yds at the most.  Didn't want to take a bad shot.

Two more weeks of bow season before its all over.

Ronnie
laissez les bon temps rouler
let the good times roll

flounderpounder

ballistic tips work great....if you hit them where you should..in the vitals  :(
" I CAN SKIN A BUCK, I CAN RUN A TROT LINE A PA BOY CAN SURVIVE" 


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