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« on: March 06, 2023, 11:39:17 PM »

Just curious....I haven't been crabbing in Fl very long, but I've never caught or even seen a turtle anywhere near NSB/Edgewater/Oak Hill/Titusville area. Has anyone ever found one in one of their traps??
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2023, 12:11:11 AM »

Just curious....I haven't been crabbing in Fl very long, but I've never caught or even seen a turtle anywhere near NSB/Edgewater/Oak Hill/Titusville area. Has anyone ever found one in one of their traps??
Last summer I saw a turtle over 12" and caught a smaller one in a ring net, while crabbing neat the North Causeway Drawbridge.  SHELLFISH actually pointed out the bigger turtle.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2023, 09:28:41 AM »

The turtle we saw at the north causeway Buena Vista Park was a Green Sea Turtle.
There are many other species of turtles in crabbing water most notable are the softshell Turtle (up to 16") and the Yellow Bellied Slider (to about 12"). Both species are common.
The turtle excluders for crab traps are aimed for reducing mortality in Diamonbacked Terrapins (Malaclemys terrapin; females to about 8"). These are very rare in our area of Mosquito Lagoon but can be found in the lower reaches of the Lagoon around Orange Island.  They are more common in the Tomoka Basin and Park.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2023, 10:10:49 AM »


The turtle excluders for crab traps are aimed for reducing mortality in Diamonbacked Terrapins (Malaclemys terrapin; females to about 8"). These are very rare in our area of Mosquito Lagoon but can be found in the lower reaches of the Lagoon around Orange Island.  They are more common in the Tomoka Basin and Park.

I have mixed feelings.  Undecided  We have lots of terrapins.  I have excluders on all my peeler pot but still kill a lot in the spring.  I guess it's about 99% males which are smaller and can still get in.  They love peelers/soft crabs.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2023, 05:58:03 PM »

I have mixed feelings.  Undecided  We have lots of terrapins.  I have excluders on all my peeler pot but still kill a lot in the spring.  I guess it's about 99% males which are smaller and can still get in.  They love peelers/soft crabs.

That sucks.  But juvis/small terrapins already have the odds stacked against them...lost in your pot or in the belly of a heron.  Or if in FL _ the belly of a gator.

The excluder is to help protect the larger breeder terappins...so in that respect they work?  (i hope). 
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2023, 05:59:14 PM »

The turtle we saw at the north causeway Buena Vista Park was a Green Sea Turtle.

Those only grow to 4 feet... laugh  When you pulled the ring net did you think you had a jumbo#1?   Wink  Dang if that was me crabbing with my kids, they'd stop trying to catch crabs and take pics with the green sea turtle just to oooh and aaah it.  They do that with a terrapin already - I can't imagine what they would do with a green sea turtle!
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2023, 10:00:58 AM »

Turtles are everywhere in the river.  I have had them sit on my dip nets, you can feel them move off.  I have caught 1 in a dipnet but I see them all the time.

A few years ago I saw a man hook a baby loggerhead right by the shell, he literally tried to put it in his cooler and take it home.  I warned him and another person on the dock offered to call FWC if he didn't let it go.  Man, some people...
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2023, 12:24:58 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2023, 12:54:27 PM »

Jack,  That's a Great Youtube link about terrapins/turtles.  Thanks
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2023, 05:13:52 PM »

Yes it's a very good video! Thanks for the link Jack!
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2023, 09:50:00 PM »

cool video.  thanks for sharing.
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