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« on: April 17, 2009, 10:53:59 AM »

Just saw this on the DNR site, looks like it came out this morn.

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/crab/031709crabdredgebrief.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 10:56:00 AM »

This looks like good news:
Total number of crabs overwintering in Chesapeake Bay increased from 280 million in 2007-2008 to just over 400 million in 2008-2009.

The increase was primarily due to a doubling in the number of adult female crabs, though adult male abundance also increased by 50 %.

Overall adult abundance in 2008-2009 was 243 million crabs slightly over the target of 200 million set by the Chesapeake Bay Stock Assessment Committee
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 11:03:33 AM »

good news.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 11:07:06 AM »

The YOY looks pretty consistent with last years numbers, hopefully, if the lower female harvest last season actually helps, there should be an increase for the 09/10 survey.

I also like how they had to pat themselves on the back in their summary points.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 11:16:27 AM »

I'm no expert but I think that 243 is more than slightly higher than 200 million (20%+).
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 11:42:01 AM »

Dom,

Thx for the post.  looks like half way decnt news for change instead of the al the doom and gloom.. but we will see..... but better than I expected to hear...
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 11:49:57 AM »

Dom,

Thx for the post.  looks like half way decnt news for change instead of the al the doom and gloom.. but we will see..... but better than I expected to hear...

It is what I expected...  Yeah they are patting themselves for a 50% increase in the adult male population, yet no restrictions that have been imposed  have had a chance to effect that part of the population.  I smell a big fat government stinky...  So we should be thanking Mother Nature at this point.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2009, 11:59:50 AM »

It is what I expected...  Yeah they are patting themselves for a 50% increase in the adult male population, yet no restrictions that have been imposed  have had a chance to effect that part of the population.  I smell a big fat government stinky...  So we should be thanking Mother Nature at this point.

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yeah I have to agree.  I can see what they did by limiting the female harvest directly increasing the number of mature females..... but he males went up 50% in one year..... doubt that was one year of the implementation of their new plans....  like you said.. more thanks to mother nature/ weather etc...but like a good politician.. they will take any and all credit whenever possible........
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2009, 12:18:00 PM »

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yeah I have to agree.  I can see what they did by limiting the female harvest directly increasing the number of mature females..... but he males went up 50% in one year..... doubt that was one year of the implementation of their new plans....  like you said.. more thanks to mother nature/ weather etc...but like a good politician.. they will take any and all credit whenever possible........

But what about the blame Sad
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2009, 12:28:32 PM »

At least the logic behind the management plan makes sense.  The 46% target harvest should increase the population each year, which then increases the harvest. 

I agree about the unexplained male population increase.  That self-congratulatory comment even looks out of place with all the other statements.  Maybe I should call and thank them for the warm sunny day they provided today.  Thanks be to DNR for all things good and righteous.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2009, 01:17:23 PM »

But what about the blame Sad


BAHAHAHA.   Blame?   If there is blame, you can bet they will plant it squarely on the shoulders of the commercial crabbers.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2009, 01:22:53 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised if they held last years numbers down to show an increase in this years numbers knowing they were going to implement the 34% reduction.

No science here, they are just fudging numbers and playing political grandstanding. Angry
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2009, 01:36:59 PM »

 and rich i know it's your fault that it rained for 2 day prior to dnr's sunny day.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2009, 02:26:07 PM »

So who's right?  The state or the Feds?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-md.briefs293jul29,0,939690.story
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2009, 02:51:56 PM »

 the date on the top of the page says today the 17 th. but the date under the article heading says july 2008 , whats up.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2009, 03:08:29 PM »

the date on the top of the page says today the 17 th. but the date under the article heading says july 2008 , whats up.

It was an article written back in July of 08.  My point is how could it have rebound like they said and adult males increased 50% if the Feds said they were in peril this past summer. 

An overall rebound of 30% in 6 months?  I DON"T THINK SO DNR!
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2009, 03:27:59 PM »

 AGREED!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2009, 03:43:09 PM »

What is real interesting is the biologists on the boats (as well as the people running the boats)  that do the WDS, were told to not say a word about the survey. Under penalty of job loss.

Why the big secrets???
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2009, 03:55:50 PM »

Beacause it would run contrary to DNR's...AGENDA!  Plus they didn't want their THUNDER stolen.  Not to mention their moment of FAME!  Cool Roll Eyes
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2009, 06:39:36 PM »

http://www.mrc.state.va.us/2009_Blue_Crab_Dredge_Survey.pdf
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