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« on: March 27, 2011, 12:33:18 PM »

I read that it is prohibited at night, but a friend of mine insists he read a brochure that you can. Also the mass website says you need a permit to crab then in the next sentance says you dont if its for your family and under 50 crabs. Doesnt mention if your from out of state if you need a permit. Im a Rhode Islander who lives right on the border and I don't understand the regs the way they are written. Can anyone answere these questions for me?    Thanks,   Ronnie
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 11:28:59 AM »

http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/commercialfishing/lobsters.htm#abstracts
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2011, 07:03:14 AM »

Your friend probably read this brochure.
 http://www.wareham.ma.us/Public_Documents/WarehamMA_Harbormaster/BlueCrabRegulations.pdf
This is from the harbormaster website in Wareham, MA where I live.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 09:19:58 PM »

Your friend probably read this brochure.
 http://www.wareham.ma.us/Public_Documents/WarehamMA_Harbormaster/BlueCrabRegulations.pdf
This is from the harbormaster website in Wareham, MA where I live.
Great info,this should clear some Questions that guys may have.Helped me,Thanks
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 12:56:49 PM »

Your friend probably read this brochure.
 http://www.wareham.ma.us/Public_Documents/WarehamMA_Harbormaster/BlueCrabRegulations.pdf
This is from the harbormaster website in Wareham, MA where I live.

The year of printing is 2009!  Are this still in effect?   Huh
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 11:28:46 PM »

Ok so my question stands: can you crab at night in Ma. One publication says no and one says yes.HuhHuhHuh??!!!!?Huh?
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 10:43:14 AM »

Yes you can crab at night in MA as long as you are using star traps, dip nets or hand lining crabs.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 07:49:01 PM »

Thank you, The regulations are so unclear, Its the same in RI. Here is the official REG.


Blue Crabs: Harvesting by residents only, by crab net, dip net, scoop net, handline and trot line only. It is illegal to harvest crabs from sunset to sunrise. All blue crabs measuring less than the legal minimum size of five inches (5") from spike-end to spike-end must be returned immediately to the water from which taken. No person shall possess, take, or attempt to take more than twenty-five (25) blue crabs from any of the waters of Rhode Island except when taken by a scoop or crab net, trot, or hand line. Measuring: A direct line measured from the end of one spike across the body shell to the end of the opposite spike must be no less than five inches (5").

The first sentance says "  Harvesting by residents only, by crab net, dip net, scoop net, handline and trot line only"  Then the forth sentance says " No person shall possess, take, or attempt to take more than twenty-five (25) blue crabs from any of the waters of Rhode Island except when taken by a scoop or crab net, trot, or hand line ".  So in effect they are saying I can have 25 illeagally harvested crabs. HuhHuh??  How about spelling it out clearly
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 05:10:08 PM »

It's a redundant sentence.   It's pretty clear if you aren't a resident, you can't crab or take them.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 08:52:24 PM »

No your missing the point, its about the amount of crabs. It says you can only use certain methods to catch crabs  in one sentence, then in another it says you can only take 25 crabs UNLESS you use the only legal methods to take them, then you can possess more. That implies you can illeagally catch only 25 crabs. Am I wrong ?
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 09:03:21 PM »

And not to drone on too much about this  but here is a direct quote from the Mass website.   

"Taking of lobsters and crabs from one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise is strictly prohibited."


So what are people to believe???

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 10:04:23 PM »

And not to drone on too much about this  but here is a direct quote from the Mass website.  

"Taking of lobsters and crabs from one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise is strictly prohibited."


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Edible ma crabs = blue, rock, jonah

Those harvest hours only applies to lobster not edible crabs.....you can dip crabs after dark in ma.....no dipping of lobsters....you can take 50 crabs in ma but only 25 blue crabs.......yes it is confusing......

http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/publications/dmf_recreational_lobster_crab_guide.pdf
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 10:15:56 PM »

No your missing the point, its about the amount of crabs. It says you can only use certain methods to catch crabs  in one sentence, then in another it says you can only take 25 crabs UNLESS you use the only legal methods to take them, then you can possess more. That implies you can illeagally catch only 25 crabs. Am I wrong ?

They appear to have fixed this confusion of this issue by cleaning up the language in an updated (5/24/2011) document, that appears to be more official than the note on the website.  http://www.dem.ri.gov/pubs/regs/regs/fishwild/rimf15.pdf    See below.

15.21 Blue Crabs – Harvest Restrictions -- No person shall possess, take or attempt to take more than twenty-five (25) blue crabs from any of the waters in this State except when taken by a scoop or crab net, trot, or hand line. Taking of blue crabs shall be restricted to residents of this State. No person shall take blue crabs from the waters of the State between the hours of sunset and sunrise. RIMFC REGULATION [Penalty - Part 3.3 (RIGL 20-3-3) ref (RIGL 20-7-15)]

It gives the impression that you can use other methods to catch crabs, can't keep more than 25 using any other methods other than those listed above.    If crabbing via the methods listed above, you may keep more than 25.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 10:22:08 PM »

Thank you both, It shouldnt be that hard to find the real regs.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 10:23:33 PM »

Agreed.   I'd call the STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT (boy that's a long name) and just confirm with them to be 100% on the safe side.
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2011, 10:35:43 PM »

Agreed.   I'd call the STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT (boy that's a long name) and just confirm with them to be 100% on the safe side.

Ya....the littlest state with the longest names............
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2011, 09:51:22 AM »

I think it's legal to go crabbing at night because I have done it (with star traps) and when the environmental police came they didn't say anything. Also there were nothing about crabbing at night in the Recreational Lobster and Crab Regulations booklet. I also check the full text of the regulation on Mass DMF's website and there are nothing about crabbing at night being prohibited.

Here's the full text of the regulation.

6.19 Blue Crab Restrictions

    (1) Definition. Blue crab means that species of crustacean known as Callinectes sapidus.
    (2) Minimum Size. No person shall take, offer for sale, or possess at any time any blue crab measuring less than 5 inches across the shell from tip to tip of the posterior-most, longest spines along the lateral margins of the carapace.
    (3) Possession Limits. It shall be unlawful for any recreational fisherman or commercial fisherman to take or possess:
        (a) more than 25 blue crabs per 24-hour day; or
        (b) any egg-bearing blue crab or female crabs with the egg mass (sponge), egg pouch or bunion removed at any time.

Link to the Recreational Lobster and Crab Regulations booklet

http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/publications/dmf_recreational_lobster_crab_guide.pdf

Link to full text regulation

http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/commercialfishing/322cmr6.htm#cmr619

Also, as WarehamDan pointed out earlier. The on the Wareham HM website there is a summary of the regulation. It also said that crabbing at night is allowed.
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2011, 10:29:13 AM »

Yes crab at nite in mass.......not illegal unless you are using crab pots......I do not mean star traps or dip nets.........Cannot catch lobsters in ma by any means at night.....It's all about the lobsters.....
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2011, 09:41:36 PM »

"It's all about the Lobster! " L# 1 to L # 2 laugh
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2011, 11:27:49 PM »

"It's all about the Lobster! " L# 1 to L # 2 laugh

 Wink Wink Grin Grin
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