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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2019, 09:01:30 AM »

14-gauge if you want them to last more than a season.  YardGard or similar.  The stuff I use is unbranded, I think.  I get it from Jos. Fazzio & Sons up here in NJ.
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Yuh catch 'um wid a neck an' a line.
Bile de water 'til 'e good 'n hot.
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Oh, de beer, he taste so chilly.
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« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2020, 11:58:02 AM »

I'm a newbie so this might be a dumb question:
Why 10x10 on the footprint?

It looks like MD regs allow for traps up to 20x15:
(2) "Collapsible crab trap" means a manually operated, portable device:
(a) Having a flat bottom not more than 20 inches by 15 inches, and not more than four articulated sides; and
          (Etc...)

Is it a matter of larger traps simply not really catching any more, or bigger crabs? Is it that smaller traps take up less space, or cost less money in materials to make? Is it that 10x10 maximises the use of the welded wire rolls?  Is it that 20x15 would weigh too much to pull up all day?

Or is it a combination of all of those factors and/or more that I'm not seeing that just results in 10x10 being the "ideal" size?

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« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2020, 06:57:29 PM »

I'm a newbie so this might be a dumb question:
Why 10x10 on the footprint?

It looks like MD regs allow for traps up to 20x15:
(2) "Collapsible crab trap" means a manually operated, portable device:
(a) Having a flat bottom not more than 20 inches by 15 inches, and not more than four articulated sides; and
          (Etc...)

Is it a matter of larger traps simply not really catching any more, or bigger crabs? Is it that smaller traps take up less space, or cost less money in materials to make? Is it that 10x10 maximises the use of the welded wire rolls?  Is it that 20x15 would weigh too much to pull up all day?

Or is it a combination of all of those factors and/or more that I'm not seeing that just results in 10x10 being the "ideal" size?

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I believe, but could be wrong, that the footprint when these traps were started/discussed WAS 10X10, but???....I know the total was once 144sq inches(I think?) and it has gotten bigger...
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« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2020, 07:54:31 PM »






I believe, but could be wrong, that the footprint when these traps were started/discussed WAS 10X10, but???....I know the total was once 144sq inches(I think?) and it has gotten bigger...

Thanks... Hmm, 10x10 would be 100 square inches, 144" square inches would imply a 12x12 based trap.

Something tells be that after a certain point of making them larger it hits a point of diminishing returns. Heavy, cumbersome to carry/maneuver and store at home or in a boat, to pull and check on the water, and unlikely to catch any more crabs per trap anyway??

If anyone could weigh in on whether 12x12 is the "sweet spot" for topless trap size, or what that sweet spot I'd, I'd be grateful! I'm thinking I might try to make some this winter, my local tractor supply has the stuff. I might check another farm supply store down here to compare prices but tsc wasn't too bad for cost on materials.

Now that I think of it I'm working out of a canoe though so I should probably be thinking in terms of how small can I make them and still catch rather than trying to go bigger...

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« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2020, 01:30:20 AM »

Several years ago, I made some 20 x 15 traps out of 14ga. to try out. I made the doors ridiculously high. Attached numerous baits all over the bottom and doors. They did not out-perform the 10 x 10 traps. And it felt like pulling up a shopping cart. laugh

I'm thinking of retiring the 10 x 10 traps I have made over the years in favor of ring traps.
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« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2020, 02:17:40 PM »

Several years ago, I made some 20 x 15 traps out of 14ga. to try out. I made the doors ridiculously high. Attached numerous baits all over the bottom and doors. They did not out-perform the 10 x 10 traps. And it felt like pulling up a shopping cart. laugh

I'm thinking of retiring the 10 x 10 traps I have made over the years in favor of ring traps.



Regs say 15X20 max...Does that MEAN 300sq in?...Could you do 17X17?....
 
Seems I remember the footprint was 144"...At the time, my first in Md, my old pyramid traps were 16X16. Didn't know and quit when we found out.
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« Reply #66 on: December 29, 2020, 04:20:19 PM »

I don't think you can go wrong with 10"x10" or 12"x12".  I used to make traps and sell them and the 12"x12" were a lot easier to sell.  Personally, I use 12"x12" and wouldn't want to pull anything heavier than that.  I also can't imagine anything bigger would catch more or bigger crabs. 

The only down side to 10"x10" would be the occasional crab that got hung up in the doors and escapes.  Hope that helps.
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Yuh catch 'um wid a neck an' a line.
Bile de water 'til 'e good 'n hot.
Den eat de crab strait from 'de pot.

Oh, de beer, he taste so chilly.
Drinks it 'til I gets too silly.
Washin' down 'de crab an' butter.
If I doesn't fall down, I'll 'ave anudder.
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« Reply #67 on: January 19, 2021, 05:07:30 PM »

Crewstation, 9 times out of 10 the crabs that get hung up in the door are brought into the boat by the claw still in the trap. The crabs claw usually gets hung up by the points and it catches the wire.
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« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2021, 10:21:38 AM »

Crewstation, 9 times out of 10 the crabs that get hung up in the door are brought into the boat by the claw still in the trap. The crabs claw usually gets hung up by the points and it catches the wire.

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Oh, de crab, he taste so fine.
Yuh catch 'um wid a neck an' a line.
Bile de water 'til 'e good 'n hot.
Den eat de crab strait from 'de pot.

Oh, de beer, he taste so chilly.
Drinks it 'til I gets too silly.
Washin' down 'de crab an' butter.
If I doesn't fall down, I'll 'ave anudder.
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« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2021, 12:06:06 AM »

Bug if you are in a canoe I would go for ring traps or 10x10. I have used 12x12 and 10x10. Both catch fine but after paddling all day to the traps as well as the room they take up smaller is better. I crab from a kayak and small john boat. You want all the room you can get. Also traps can get top heavy if you have a lot of them. Im making ring traps for space and easy of pulling them. I dont think you will get 30 traps, bushel basket, basket to cull the crabs and what ever else you are going to take with you. Paddle, drinks, food, extra bait, life jacket and what ever you may take. Space is key when in a small vessel.
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