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« on: June 29, 2013, 10:43:54 AM »

Friday, June 28th at North channel bridge I received two Criminal Court Summonses at 8:35pm, "Cross bay blvd & North Channel Park" for fishing and crabbing...Wth... The cops claimed there is a sign posted no fishing on the bridge and that you cannot fish from the bridge...

1) Fishing from public bridge
2) Fail to comply with sign in the park

Here are some pictures of the posted signs and tickets... 2nd pic blurry I have to go back and get better pics



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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2013, 10:51:54 AM »

Clearly you need to go and fight this.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2013, 10:54:02 AM »

Unfortunately this is what happens when some people ruin it for others.........remember not too long ago there were no restrictions on the bridge....aka fish/crab all night no problem.  Cry
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2013, 11:00:39 AM »

Yes I have to fight this, there is no other way every choice given you MUST APPEAR in court... and it might be on my record... none of the posted signs say NO FISHING ON THE BRIDGE...
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2013, 11:25:39 AM »

none of the posted signs say NO FISHING ON THE BRIDGE...

I've not heard of bridge being off limits..........if it was it would be BIG NEWS, very popular spot.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2013, 05:47:35 PM »

Here is clear evidence that you can fish on and around the North Channel Bridge (Joseph P. Addobbo Bridge).

I found this on the NEW YORK STATE DEC WEBSITE.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/ifishny.pdf

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2013, 07:01:04 PM »

Ticket1- 19-168: fishing from bridge based on the below(NO SIGNS POSTED, I don't know which "commissioner" there talking about):

New York City Administrative Code(NEW)

 
      19-168  Fishing  from public bridges. (a) The commissioner shall be
  authorized  to  post  on  any  public  bridge  within  the  city,  signs
  prohibiting  fishing therefrom. The commissioner shall post and maintain
  such signs on bridges selected at his or her discretion.
    (b) It shall be  unlawful  for  any  person  to  fish,  by  any  means
  whatsoever,  from  any  public  bridge  within  the  city  where  a sign
  prohibiting such conduct has been posted.
    (c) Violation of this section shall be punishable by  a  fine  of  not
  more than fifty dollars nor less than fifteen dollars for each violation
  thereof.

LINK: http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LAWSSEAF.cgi?QUERYTYPE=LAWS+&QUERYDATA=[email protected]+&LIST=SEA1+&BROWSER=BROWSER+&TOKEN=13629576+&TARGET=VIEW

Ticket2- 1-03/C2: Fail to comply with sign in parks(SIGNS POSTED HAS NOTHING PROHIBITING FISHING OF NORTH CHANNEL BRIDGE).

1-03 General Provisions

    Hours of Operation
        Persons may enter and use the parks from 6:00 a.m. until 1:00 a.m. unless other open hours are posted at any park.
        Whenever a threat to public health or safety exists in any park resulting from any natural cause, explosion, accident or any other cause, or by riot or unlawful assembly or activity, the Commissioner may close the park or any part thereof to the public for such duration as he deems necessary to ensure the safety and well-being of the public.
        No person shall enter or remain in any park without the permission of the Commissioner when such park is closed to the public.
    Permits
        When any provision of these Rules requires a permit as a condition to the performance of any act or activity, no such act or activity shall be implemented or commenced prior to the receipt of written authorization from the Commissioner or from his or her authorized representative.
        A permit may be granted upon such terms and conditions as the Commissioner shall reasonably impose, and shall authorize the permitted acts or activities only insofar as they are performed in strict accordance with the terms and conditions thereof.
        Permits shall be applied for on forms prepared and provided by the Department, which forms shall require such information as the Department may deem appropriate for the review and evaluation of the permit application. Procedures for issuance of special event and demonstration permits are governed by 2-08 of the Department's rules. The Commissioner may require a fee for the issuance of a permit.
        The Commissioner may require the permittee to post a bond in an amount sufficient to ensure full compliance with the terms and conditions of the permit. The decision of whether to require a bond will be based on the following factors:
            The location of the event and such location's vulnerability to damage;
            Whether the event or any activities associated with the event present a high risk of property damage;
            The number of people expected to be in attendance;
            The type of equipment to be brought onto the site;
            The number of days the permittee will occupy the site;
            The season in which the event will take place.
        The Commissioner may require the permittee to obtain personal liability insurance for the event, naming the Department and the City of New York as additional insureds. The decision on whether to require insurance will be based on the following factors:
            Whether the special event or any activities included as part of the special event present a risk of personal injury or property damage.
            Whether the special event involves the sale of food.
            Whether the special event involves over 2,000 participants, or a large number of participants relative to the size of the site.
            Whether the special event involves transportation and installation of heavy equipment, or the installation of a stage or other temporary structure.
        No person shall conduct any activity for which a permit is required unless
            such permit has been issued;
            all terms and conditions of such permit have been or are being complied with; and
            the permit is kept on hand at the event, so as to be available for inspection by Police or Department employees.
        Failure to comply with the terms and conditions of any permit shall be a violation of these rules. If, upon expiration or termination of the permit, it is determined that a permittee has not complied with the terms and conditions of the permit, or has violated any law, ordinance, statute or rule, then the following rules shall apply:
            any bond provided as security for a permittee's performance with the Department shall be forfeited and retained by the City to the extent necessary to remedy, or compensate the City for, the damages caused by such acts, omissions, or violations;
            the permittee, together with has or her agents and employees who violated such terms and conditions or provisions of law, ordinance, statute or rule, shall be jointly and severally liable for any additional sum necessary to correct or compensate the City for such damages; and
            neither forfeiture of any security nor payment nor recovery for such damages shall in any way relieve the permittee of civil or criminal liability arising from the violation of any law, ordinance or rule.
    Failure to Comply with Directions of Police Officers, Urban Park Rangers, Parks Enforcement Patrol Officers, or Other Department Employees, or Park Signs.
        No person shall fail, neglect or refuse to comply with the lawful direction or command of any Police Officer, Urban Park Ranger, Parks Enforcement Patrol Officer or other Department employee, indicated by gesture or otherwise.
        No person shall fail to comply with or obey any instruction, direction, regulation, warning, or prohibition, written or printed, displayed or appearing on any park sign, except such sign may be disregarded upon order by a Police Officer or designated Department employee.

LINK: http://www.nycgovparks.org/rules/section-1-03


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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2013, 07:03:19 PM »

If this is the sign there talking about it's not posted anywhere near North Channel Bridge on or before my ticket issue date.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9924.html
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2013, 03:34:06 PM »

You should have a fun day in court........GOOD LUCK and GIVE THEM [Sam Hill]. Let us know how it works out for you.
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 07:20:44 PM »

Decided to go with a criminal lawyer... Lets see what happens... the date is in September...lol... I guess my crabbing and fishing at the bridge is done...
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 08:26:23 AM »

Glad to see you are fighting the good fight.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 09:33:06 AM »

from long island so not to sure where this bridge was. So I did a google and found this.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Addabbo_Memorial_Bridge . Interesting picture on the right of the page. Should copy this also and bring it to court.  Looks to me like your allowed to fish that bridge.  lol.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 11:15:40 PM »

Yep I've been crabbing and fishing there for 3+years and never saw anyone get a ticket... Ill give the lawyer that pic its clear
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2013, 12:19:25 PM »

i never see any type of policing at any crabbing or fishing spot. ain't that a kick in the teeth that they finally show up and target one of the good guys? good luck.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 02:30:30 PM »

Very strange... Guess some people were in bitch mode...    Huh
Was the end of the month?
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 03:51:32 PM »

Any update on what happened?
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2013, 09:46:53 AM »

My lawyer went to court on Friday 9/13 and found out that the tickets were dismissed by the clerk... What a waste of my summer.  I did not go fishing or crabbing after I was issued those tickets.  Epic.  I guess there's always next summer  2thumbsup
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2013, 10:43:16 AM »

Glad to hear they were dismissed, but sorry to hear your summer was blown.    Angry
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