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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2014, 03:31:55 PM »

A six year old study based on a computer model invented by the author with no collaborating opinions by other "scientists"?
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2014, 05:36:00 PM »

CO2 used in a fixed fire fighting system has killed many who did not excape the protected space before it was released.
Do you actually believe that you can breathe this gas?
Moving the goal posts. Now you are changing the argument, obviously if you replace enough of the oxygen in a room with carbon dioxide (CO2) you can suffocate but that is no different than drowning underwater for the same reason. That does not make CO2 dangerous in current or likely future atmospheric concentrations.

- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) levels in the atmosphere are at 0.04% (400ppm) (Source)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not toxic until 5% (50,000ppm) concentration (Source)
- Any detrimental effects of Carbon Dioxide (CO2) including chronic exposure to 3% (30,000ppm) are reversible (Source)
- OSHA, NIOSH, and ACGIH occupational exposure standards are 0.5% (5,000 ppm) Carbon Dioxide (CO2) (Source)
- Submarine Crews live and work in a Carbon Dioxide (CO2) rich environment of 3,500 to 4,100 ppm on average (Source)

I have not found evidence of many people dying from CO2 fire suppression systems regardless.
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2014, 05:48:28 PM »

Stanford found a direct link
A seventeen year study
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2008/january9/co-010908.html
It was not a "17-year study" but rather the author worked on a climate model he used in the study for 18 years. He is effectively trying to claim that an increase in CO2 will increase ozone levels (not proven) and this will increase cancer, all based on a worthless computer climate model. This is not a direct link as CO2 is still not directly causing any deaths.

Answer this question: Can a computer model be programmed to give the results that you want?
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2014, 08:00:09 PM »

Don't trust anybody over thirty years old Smiley

Ron, this was a good topic. Made people not only think, but they did some research on their own. We all know more than we did yesterday. Glaciers will continue to retreat as long as the yearly melt rate exceeds the yearly snowfall rate.
The good that comes from retreat is the valleys and lakes created. Its all cyclical, without mans interference.
Cant wait for the coming of the next  Ice Age, my buddy works for the State and he has to run the snowplows. Poor bugger. Grin
 
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