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« Reply #120 on: March 13, 2014, 06:39:59 PM »

How bout we organize a water restoration effort instead of instead of complaining and pointing fingers?
I stink at organizing, but I'd be one of the first to sign up.

If anyones interested I'll be in also.  I have time and research ability.  I have been reading everything about the bay grasses since my post yesterday.  I am not sure exactly what course to follow here.  There are some brilliant minds that post on here that could get this going and I agree with you Kal, Great idea...
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« Reply #121 on: March 13, 2014, 07:33:47 PM »

If anyones interested I'll be in also.  I have time and research ability.  I have been reading everything about the bay grasses since my post yesterday.  I am not sure exactly what course to follow here.  There are some brilliant minds that post on here that could get this going and I agree with you Kal, Great idea...
Here a pic from a few years ago showing the boat scaring of SAV in the Tangier Sound (Crisfield).
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« Reply #122 on: March 14, 2014, 08:52:13 AM »

Wow Jacki didn't know there was that much grass left down that way. I was under the impression crabs have almost nowhere to hid when they are tiny. How old is that pic and is the outside area from shore all grass. Up this way i have not seen any grass beds since i was a young teen and i just turned 55.
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« Reply #123 on: March 14, 2014, 09:01:31 AM »

Oh without a doubt I'm sure it has come up in previous discussions (I've probably even read over some of them), but it's not like I'm testifying in front of the government in Annapolis lol.  Just trying to keep the conversation going!

Your comments are WAY TOO SENSIBLE to be testifying in front of the legislature.
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« Reply #124 on: March 14, 2014, 09:19:25 AM »

I think that pic is from 1999... Not sure.  There are still a few large SAV beds around down here.  But no crabs in VA.  Wink Grin  Checkout this interactive map of SAV -> http://web.vims.edu/bio/sav/maps.html?svr=www   Cool

PS: Don't tell Gene that grant money paid for this site and some dumb scientist did it...  Wink Grin
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« Reply #125 on: March 14, 2014, 11:33:33 AM »

Here a pic from a few years ago showing the boat scaring of SAV in the Tangier Sound (Crisfield).

This is Crisfield? Looks like OC, 52nd street.
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« Reply #126 on: March 14, 2014, 11:55:31 AM »

Lol......that does surely look like secrets.
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« Reply #127 on: March 14, 2014, 11:57:45 AM »

Tugcap,
I just look at Google, that's not crisfield........that is ocean city. Sorry jack.

Incredible eye, to pick that up.
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« Reply #128 on: March 14, 2014, 12:01:54 PM »

I think Jack did that to see who was still paying attention.  laugh
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« Reply #129 on: March 14, 2014, 12:03:25 PM »

I failed, and Ive been passed out on those tubes on more than one occasion!
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« Reply #130 on: March 14, 2014, 12:03:27 PM »

Your right Mark.  I was looking for the Tangier pic and stumbled onto this one.  Assumed it was the Tangier one I was looking for cause I found it on a Vims site.  I did think it didn't look right but was in a hurry. Here is a link to a bunch of scarring http://web.vims.edu/bio/sav/special_reports/Boat_Scarring-Year_1_final_report.pdf
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« Reply #131 on: March 14, 2014, 12:04:41 PM »

regardless, still a neat picture. Thanks for posting it
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« Reply #132 on: March 14, 2014, 01:46:29 PM »

If you Google Map 52 St. OC, Md and switch to the satellite view, the whole bottom of Assawoman Bay and Isle of Wight Bay is scarred. Can't all be from dredging or clamming, must be mostly from normal boat traffic.
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« Reply #133 on: March 14, 2014, 01:48:43 PM »

Definitely boat traffic.. I been following the research for years.... Cool
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« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2014, 02:24:44 PM »

Heck, you can see the boats doing the damage.
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« Reply #135 on: March 15, 2014, 02:25:11 PM »

Your comments are WAY TOO SENSIBLE to be testifying in front of the legislature.

This made me actually laugh out loud.  Rapp, I'm with you.  I am ready to see some good reports!  I considered last year a good year, so if it gets better than that, I'm going to be really excited  Grin

If I was in Maryland, I would gladly join and/or lead any water restoration efforts, because I love my home state (as you can see from this photo...all my Ohio friends constantly make fun of my clothing choices, but they're just jealous because they don't even have a state flag they have a pennant!), and there's nothing I like better than a good fight.  If the bay grasses are in question, that would be a pretty costly fix but I think it can be done artificially (see Living Classrooms/Biohabitat experiement http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-08-08/news/bs-md-floating-wetlands-20100808_1_manmade-wetlands-fells-point-living-classrooms). 

Only a couple more weeks until my Easter break from school and I'm going to be out there trying....and will probably post reports about catching nothing  Grin  GOOD LUCK TO ALL!
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« Reply #136 on: March 24, 2014, 12:21:24 PM »

I definitely think step one is to bring back the health of the bay, starting with the grasses and really making stricter regulations about what feeds into the bay from pesticides to everything else that comes from business/residential properties that live in the watershed districts.

water quality improvment would help, there would be a lot less oxegen depleted areas in the rivers and bays with better water quality and more grass.  More areas for bethnic creatures, like crabs, to not only survive but thrive.  You also have to look at the Rockfish and Drum populations to see if they are feeding too heavily on the crabs, and not on baitfish.  everything in the bay, from the grass, to the baitfish, to the crabs and larger game fish, all coexist in well balanced numbers, and when one or more populations gets out of wack, it throws EVERYTHING off.   Its definitely going to take big bucks and several states that share the Bay to come together to figure out a solution.  Whatever they decide, I'm all for it as long as it works.

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« Reply #137 on: March 24, 2014, 12:29:07 PM »

It's never going to get better.  Agnis killed the Chesapeake and it would take a cataclysmic event of unbelievable size to flush out all the poisons...  Undecided
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« Reply #138 on: March 24, 2014, 03:24:13 PM »

Jack didn't you ask me why the gloom and doom, you knew the ansewer already.
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« Reply #139 on: March 24, 2014, 03:28:29 PM »

Nope. Not me. Cool
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