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« on: July 21, 2014, 06:25:23 PM »

I have been experiencing a much greater loss than usual, or one would expect.  I have been crabbing for 45 years and although always eager to learn, I am no rookie.  These crabs have been taken  ....  well let's say from the same "general" vicinity that "Busheled Out" haunts.

I use a wooden bushel basket covered with a wet white tee shirt and toss water on the catch 3-4 times a session.  I have always had minimal loss over the years but nothing like this  ...........  last 2 trips.

55  crabs  12 dead      -      48  crabs  with  10  dead   .............  opinions or input ?    Ron ?


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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 06:36:28 PM »

and  no   .........  they  were not on their backs.            DC
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 07:04:31 PM »

There was another thread that talked about this - i believe the dead crabs may have had haematadinium already - it's a dinoflagellate parasite. 

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/mb/sk/saltonstallken/perezi.htm
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 07:29:34 PM »

I've had absolutely no problem with dead loss this year and we crab the same area.    Were the dead crabs whiteys?   
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 07:32:15 PM »

Things might have changed.That was published in 1997 HuhHuh  I never had a problem...??
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2014, 12:50:22 AM »

I have had zero problem with dead loss as well and I am out A LOT.  Could the basket or cloth be contaminated with soap or oil or something?
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2014, 07:41:57 AM »

I know you said you've never had a problem with dead loss in the past but try not putting water on your crabs after they are in the basket. It's ok to put the wet shirt on but don't keep soaking, crabs have to pump water out while on land to breath and the process of pumping out several times can wear them out. Also as everyone is reporting most crabs being caught this year are very large for the most part and these are crabs left over from last year that made it through the winter, with that in mind it could be that these larger crabs are older- 3-4 years old and are weaker when they reach near the end of a crabs life span which is 3-5 years. the only other thing i can think of would be oxegen depleted water where your crabbing from algae blooms are making them weak.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2014, 08:24:00 AM »

*  I just tossed the baskets as I am going to "Sea Gear" to get plastic bushels.

*  As far as water goes....  I just pour it over them ( evaporative cooling )

*  Oxygen levels  ?  ?   good thought.  As there was an inordinate quantity of cabbage in the water on both trips.  I dealt with it because the crabs were big.  10 trap pulls  =  11  crabs with zero throw backs  ....   that kind of day.

*  As a side note  ......  if you have never been to "Sea Gear" in Cape May,  make it a point to do so.  It's a nautical candy store.

Thanks for the input .......  I'll keep you posted.  ( no pun intended )

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 09:03:28 AM »

To build on what rdbeard said instead of pouring water on the shirtas its laying over the baskets(if thats how you do it) why not just soak the shirt in water ring it out and then lay it back over the crabs. Even tho you pour water on the shirt it still should be dripping through onto the crabs causing them to work hard to expell the water.  also are you using water from the river/bay or bottled water.  could maybe be making a difference also.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 09:24:03 AM »

I know you said you've never had a problem with dead loss in the past but try not putting water on your crabs after they are in the basket. It's ok to put the wet shirt on but don't keep soaking, crabs have to pump water out while on land to breath and the process of pumping out several times can wear them out. Also as everyone is reporting most crabs being caught this year are very large for the most part and these are crabs left over from last year that made it through the winter, with that in mind it could be that these larger crabs are older- 3-4 years old and are weaker when they reach near the end of a crabs life span which is 3-5 years. the only other thing i can think of would be oxegen depleted water where your crabbing from algae blooms are making them weak.

I agree once they are caught don't keep dipping the bushel in the water, make sure they are all facing up and the soaked t shirt is fine. I open a bag of ice on way home to keep them cool, little to no turn over
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2014, 02:24:56 PM »

Been out with Ron several times this year and have driven home clear across the state with no dead loss.  No ice used just damp burlap.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2014, 04:02:06 PM »

I took live crabs home from the Wye many times.Never had a dead one.I keep a bushel in a very shallow plastic tray with a bag of ice on top of the bushel cover.About half way home I make a stop(when your my age you have to)I then empty the water in the pan out......I live in New York....
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2014, 05:26:12 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2014, 11:37:09 PM »

That's odd...maybe keep them on ice as soon as they're caught so if they die, there won't be a problem with bacteria?

I admit I was a little intimidated by the subject line of your post  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2014, 11:49:01 PM »

Been out with Ron several times this year and have driven home clear across the state with no dead loss.  No ice used just damp burlap.
What's that? Huh Like 10 miles....   Wink Grin
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 10:18:38 AM »

What's that? Huh Like 10 miles....   Wink Grin

Takes about an hour and 10 minutes from my place to his place.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2014, 12:04:03 PM »

Been out with Ron several times this year and have driven home clear across the state with no dead loss.  No ice used just damp burlap.


Large crabs usually perish before the small crabs do. Ive never had a small crab die in transport.
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2014, 10:14:33 PM »

Large crabs usually perish before the small crabs do. Ive never had a small crab die in transport.

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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2014, 01:48:39 AM »

Been out with Ron several times this year and have driven home clear across the state with no dead loss.  No ice used just damp burlap.

but Scap. those crab think you are taking them to a kiddie crab park to play with other kiddie crabs. Shocked Shocked Shocked      they are loaded with energy..
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2014, 04:22:23 PM »

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