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« on: November 06, 2015, 01:35:43 PM »

I do most of my crabbing behind Wildwood & Cape May, we usually do OK, but not nearly as well as you guys that hit the creeks & rivers.
I am going for the last trip this weekend to a couple of my usual spots, I don't want to get lost in a new creek maze this time of year, maybe I'll go exploring next summer,
but why is the crabbing so good in the creeks as compared to the barrier islands , when I say barrier islands I go deep into the creeks closest to the parkway, still not the same results as you river & creek guys
Thanks in advance for any light that you can shed on this topic
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2015, 01:42:40 PM »

Jimmies like fresh water....      Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2015, 01:51:49 PM »

Ron Hit the nail on the head.

 Also most river sytems have more productive marsh area etc, rather than large expanses of open water.   One nice example Is the great Egg harbor area, (tuckahoe, egg harbor, patcong)  it is a remarkable place as you can see the transition from river, to marsh to bay within a the span of a boat ride. 

The more edge habitat= more food and protection. So young crabs can grow and avoid being eaten.

Sex and size ratio will be different in various salinities and temps.

   Take my trip yesterday, the keeper sized crabs were stacked up in a small (couple hundred acre area) as compared to the several thousand in the entire marsh complex. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2015, 06:04:51 PM »

Isn't the Patcong in the back bay of SomersPoint, & Dividing Creek runs into Delaware Bay
So wouldn't they both get mostly a salt water influx
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2015, 06:43:08 PM »

The Delaware Bay averages around 15 parts per million in areas away from the ocean while the area closest to the ocean is up around 30 parts per million. You can catch cat fish at the mouth of the Maurice River and out into the cove, which is where DC enters the bay.

Patcong has a freshwater lake at the end of it and the Great Egg Harbor river empties into the bay just west of it.

I'd bet the back bay areas are much closer to the 30 parts per million.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2015, 06:51:59 PM »

Isn't the Patcong in the back bay of SomersPoint, & Dividing Creek runs into Delaware Bay
So wouldn't they both get mostly a salt water influx


True, but the Great Egg has 5 freshwater estuaries dumping into it, and Dividing creek area has TWO main feeding rivers and Several smaller ones. This gives a salinity from fresh at the headwater to straight Salt at the river mouth.  Key is finding the right mix of Food, temperature and salinity for the type of crab you are looking for.  
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2015, 08:15:43 PM »

Isn't the Patcong in the back bay of SomersPoint, & Dividing Creek runs into Delaware Bay
So wouldn't they both get mostly a salt water influx

It feeds the bay, but it runs for a few miles.    Further north you go, the fresher it gets.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2015, 09:41:10 PM »

Guys, thank you for that in depth reply, I really thought that when I travel deep into the creeks behind WW & Cape May that it would be similar to the salinity of the creeks that you guys play in
DC is kind scary looking at it from Google maps & I haven't been to SomersPoint in about 10 years so I'm not too familiar with that area either. I definitely want to try both those areas so I guess next summer when the weather is nice I'll give it a shot
Again thanks for all this great information, I'm looking forward to next summer
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2015, 10:15:48 PM »

Don't rule out other creek areas closer to you ww home port.....Dennis and , Maurice to name a couple.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2015, 08:25:01 AM »

I'm usually trailering my boat down the back roads so I either go down 55 or Tuchahoe rd so I pass either DC or Patcong  spring is a long time away
Thanks for all the replies
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2015, 08:25:56 AM »

I'm usually trailering my boat down the back roads so I either go down 55 or Tuchahoe rd so I pass either DC or Patcong  spring is a long time away
Thanks for all the replies
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